RE: Metroid Prime 2 and Halo 2

[MechDeus]

Every time I play, I have a new (usually funny) story to tell; it's never the same experience.

Like the time when it glitched while saving a checkpoint so whenever I restarted there I had the wrong weapon graphic, giving me a plasma rifle that shot bullets. That was cool.

[Mzo]

Also, I need someone to clarify, how does having vehicles automatically make it a better multiplayer experience? As far as I know, Counter-Strike doesn't have any vehicles, and from what I hear, it's stilled the most played multiplayer game on the internet.

Think of these games as a playground. The more toys on the playground, the more games you can play with them.

Counter-Strike plays very differently from Halo, anyway... vehicles just wouldn't work too well there.

[Nick]

Anyway, singleplayer sticks in your mind more, multiplayer definitely sticks in mine longer, which shows that its a crapshoot anyway and thus Nick's point is invalidated.

My point was not that a good single-player experience will always eclipse a good multiplayer one. My point was that the Metroid Prime's single-player experience will fare better than Halo's multiplayer one. I think there will be tons of games in the years to come that will out-Halo Halo, and I think what Prime brings to the table is harder to carbon copy.

It felt like you were basing your value judgement on replay value when it should have been on overall quality of experience. Thus my analogy. More time does not always equal more satisfying. Even if I end up playing Halo 2 100 time longer than Prime 2, the latter could still be a better game. There's just less of it.

[Sl1p]

Counter-Strike used to have a vehicle. It a was awful so they took it out. A TRUE TESTAMENT TO THE GREAT VEHICLE QUALITY OF HALO!

PS: I had a dream last night that I got a new issue of EGM, Halo 2 got straight 10's while Prime 2 got 7's and 8's. Then I was trapped in something like Silent Hill 4 and there was this little girl and I was like AAAAAH and I shot her body off with a shotgun and then the walls started bleeding and her head rolled over and she was like WHY DID YOU SHOOT ME and I was all HELL YEAH I SHOT YOU and then work called and I said I wanted to sleep.

[Mzo]

My point was not that a good single-player experience will always eclipse a good multiplayer one. My point was that the Metroid Prime's single-player experience will fare better than Halo's multiplayer one.

Ooh, Nick, I don't know about that.

Yeah, Metroid Prime was an above average game, but Halo multiplayer is huge. HUGE. Go around to your favorite game stores, ask how many copies of Halo 2 have been pre-ordered as opposed to how many Metroid Prime 2 copies are on hold... the difference is staggering.

Halo 2 is just more accessible to a far wider audience... kids, adults, casual gamers, the hardcore, etc. Halo 2 will sell more Xboxes. Halo 2 will sell more subscriptions to Live.

If you work at a game store, or hang out near one, or near people that play video games, you can feel Halo 2 coming. It's going to be HUGE. The single player sounds to be far improved from the first; really, all they had to do was take away the boring stretches and they win. But I won't even argue the single player. It's almost moot. Halo 2 multiplayer will be better than Metroid Prime 2 single player.

[MechDeus]

Yeah, Metroid Prime was an above average game, but Halo multiplayer is huge. HUGE.

Same went for Goldeneye but that didn't make it a good game.

Halo 2 is just more accessible to a far wider audience... kids, adults, casual gamers, the hardcore, etc.

And DOA is more accessible then VF4. Yadda Yadda Ya.

[Rocca]

Sorry Nintendo, your rusted hooks are starting to loosen. Go Halo.

[Joust Williams]

"If you work at a game store, or hang out near one, or near people that play video games, you can feel Halo 2 coming."

No, I can't.

"The single player sounds to be far improved from the first; really, all they had to do was take away the boring stretches and they win."

It would also then be 12 minutes long.

[Mzo]

Same went for Goldeneye but that didn't make it a good game.

I dunno, I thought it was a really good game.

And DOA is more accessible then VF4. Yadda Yadda Ya.

Yeah, except that there "more accessible" means "not as deep." I'm really having trouble understanding why you're comparing one of the best games in its genre to a mediocre game in its respective genre.

No, I can't.

Is this supposed to be surprising? I've never known a single person more out of touch with gaming today than you.

[Sl1p]

I've never known a single person more out of touch with gaming today than you.

I think you just about nailed it right there.