Def Jam 2: Fight for NY

[frostwolf ex]

i think slip is talking about reversals that put you in a grapple position. the grapple counters that i have been pulling are just strikes the but distance between you and the enemy.

Anyhow, i rented this, and while i dont think its good enough to buy at full price, i am really enjoying it more then i expected. i never played djv so i really didnt know too much what to expect, factor in my ambivilance to wrestling games(i know its not a wrestler, but its developed by guys who do mostly wrestlers, right?) and my utter hate for rap, and i was really doing a mercy rent, but im impresed, the caw mode is limited, but varied enough that i made just about what i wanted, the moves are actually pretty good and true to life, other than the blazes,and they are supposed to be over the top, so no surprise there. I cant say i cared formy char's personality, i prefer the quiet, driven esoteric ryu type fighter to a cocky loudmouth who talks like a 14 year old on the internet "bitch you got owned"..yuk. but the fighting actually impressed me, there is a good amount of give and take, and i never felt like the computer was unfairly abusing overpowered tactics. combos had their place, hard kicks had their place, grapples had their place, weapons had their place, as did weapon disarms, i really felt like using all my strategic options, rather than just leaning on a few proven moves.


ITs no ggxx, and its nto trying to be one, it is more fun than i expected, and if it hits 20 im getting it in a second, just to try out different fighter combos, my current build is a ma/submision/kickboxer with maxed speed and lower body,and a good bit of toughness. im interested in trying a wrestler/sub combo.

Some things that bugged me were little details, the loading sceens take forever, my guy's attitude annoyed me, i would have preferred a freesparring option in rollins gym so i could try out my moves without some psycho trying to remove my head. The girlfriends thing was highly underused, i barely even saw her, maybe they could have her there as a persistent crowd interference or something, and i would like to see a little more groundwork and counter grapples, it would make more sense for a submission wrestler. Finally, i know it kind of defeats the puropse of havign rappers in the game in the first place, but could x-box please get custom soundtracks? i do not fight to rap, i fight to metal, i fight to punk, i fight to ska, i do not fight to rap. but other than those gripes, its a very solid game that i like more than i expected.

[MarkRyan]

i think slip is talking about reversals that put you in a grapple position. the grapple counters that i have been pulling are jsut strikes the but distance between you and the enemy.

A grapple reversal puts your opponent in stun temporarily, which lets you grapple them back without being able to reverse you, or run and attack them (some standing heavy attacks are fast enough to land, too). Also, if they run into a wall while stunned they'll slump against it and let you go for an environmental grapple attack.

[Master]

I love the MMA moves but I wish they didn't include the silly pro-wrestling moves and goofy/impossible moves. I'm all for a *little* bit of a stretch, like people really flying when you hit them, but elbow drops? No person in the history of the world has ever really hurt anybody with a lame-ass elbow drop. Please.

Though, I liked the first one too, and I like this one much better, I was just hoping it would stray more from the wrestling roots...

[frostwolf ex]

A grapple reversal puts your opponent in stun temporarily, which lets you grapple them back without being able to reverse you, or run and attack them (some standing heavy attacks are fast enough to land, too). Also, if they run into a wall while stunned they'll slump against it and let you go for an environmental grapple attack.

yeah i got that, i just figured he wanted a seamless animation of your guy going from blocking a grapple right into a counter grapple

[Master]

i fight to ska

Lame. Why not fight to Bluegrass, or Reggae, or Jazz like in SF3? Totally lame.

[frostwolf ex]

I love the MMA moves but I wish they didn't include the silly pro-wrestling moves and goofy/impossible moves. I'm all for a *little* bit of a stretch, like people really flying when you hit them, but elbow drops? No person in the history of the world has ever really hurt anybody with a lame-ass elbow drop. Please.

Though, I liked the first one too, and I like this one much better, I was just hoping it would stray more from the wrestling roots...

From a traditional martial artists view i was impressed with the karate moves too, my 3 style guy fights in pretty much a straight on shotokan karate stance,and the hard kick move is delivered pretty much dead on for how someone would throw a hard rounhouse kick, im not usually impressed with martial arts in games(and bitch about it regularly here) but other than the purposly unrealistic blazes, i cant say much bad

Lame. Why not fight to Bluegrass, or Reggae, or Jazz like in SF3? Totally lame.

dear sir, please go frequent the company of a woman of ill repute. My point is, custom soundtracks are preferable because everyoen has what they want to listen to, and nobody is going to like everything, so just give us the keys and we can find the best music for the game for our mood. now go listen to para para or something

[Timber]

HAs EA used custom soundtracks in any of their games yet? I don't normaly play a lot of EA games on my box so I wouldn't know.

[MarkRyan]

HAs EA used custom soundtracks in any of their games yet? I don't normaly play a lot of EA games on my box so I wouldn't know.

Burnout 3 has them.

[Korly]

HAs EA used custom soundtracks in any of their games yet? I don't normaly play a lot of EA games on my box so I wouldn't know.

Tiger 2k4 and 2k5, Madden 2k4 used 'em during the menus (can't remember if 2k5 did though), Burnout 3, and MAYBE Nascar 2k4, but I can't say for sure.

[MarkRyan]

This game has some seriously terrible fucking controls.