Just when you thought using a LJ was safe...

[Saint of Killers]

http://www.seanbaby.com/cleveland/part3.html

That was the first thing I thought of when I read the initial post.

This isn't the point whatsoever. The point is that someone actually can just drop your name to the FBI and no matter how insignificant you are, even if the only evidence of any deviance on your part is this anonymous accusation and you're clearly exonerated, you become a file. It's KGB style tactics. It's a symptom of a society built around fear and self-inflicted oppression.

If I become afraid to speak out because of the possibility that what I say, no matter how true it is or how within my rights it is to say it, could cause my privacy to be sacrificed then I'm being oppressed, and in a country that prides itself on its freedoms and the rights of the individual, this seems completely out of place.

Threatening to kill the president isn't protected speech. And your privacy is sacrificed the instant you post something on a public Livejournal.

[Fe 26]

Threatening to kill the president isn't protected speech. And your privacy is sacrificed the instant you post something on a public Livejournal.

How about taking over the world or blowing up military buildings?

[g0zen]

Threatening to kill the president isn't protected speech. And your privacy is sacrificed the instant you post something on a public Livejournal.

That's not the point.

Hey man, how would the Secret Service know that this kid is insignificant? Thats why they go and talk to him to see whats really up.

Right, but once they've determined the threat is NOT there, how can they then keep you on record in their database alongside REAL threats? Certainly I can understand investigating potential threats to the life of the President, but keeping people on record who're proven to pose NO threat is unjustifiable and a clear violation of one's civil rights.

[MarsKitten]

Basicly guys don't use the following words together unless you wanna get a look over from the humourless men with pretty sunglasses.

Koran, assassinate, bomb, jihad, atomic, nuclear, president, football (as in the nuclear code book the pres has), purple monkey dishwasher.

Cause people are assholes and these days if someone doesn't like your political notions they're more inclined to tattle on you than ever. But if the SS inteprets even a remote threat to the commander in chief or other persons in their charge it is their job to check it out. Sometimes doing yer job means being an asshole but being an asshole isn't doing you job.

[Yoshi]

Right, but once they've determined the threat is NOT there, how can they then keep you on record in their database alongside REAL threats? Certainly I can understand investigating potential threats to the life of the President, but keeping people on record who're proven to pose NO threat is unjustifiable and a clear violation of one's civil rights.

Why on earth would you not keep the records of the investigation? Deleting them would be ten times more stupid than keeping them.

[g0zen]

Deleting them would be ten times more stupid than keeping them.

If the report made turned out to be in error or the threat completely absent then there is no reason whatsoever to keep those records on file. They should be expunged without question. We destory a juvenile''s criminal record when they turn 18, yet we keep files on completely innocent people we were reported mistakenly? That's pretty stupid.

[Yoshi]

If the report made turned out to be in error or the threat completely absent then there is no reason whatsoever to keep those records on file. They should be expunged without question. We destory a juvenile''s criminal record when they turn 18, yet we keep files on completely innocent people we were reported mistakenly? That's pretty stupid.

It didn't turn out to be in error. It turned out to not be a threat. The information that this dumb bitch was making threats was 100% accurate and worth keeping the penny worth of drive space it would require to store.

[Joust Williams]

Exactly. She's so stupid to make such statments that she should live with them forever anyway. They don't have a file on me...but that's because I didn't act like a total idiot.

[Calliander]

Wonder if TNL will get a "report to FBI" button on the board in the next upgrade.

I want to see this feature.

Even if it only goes to cka.

[g0zen]

It didn't turn out to be in error. It turned out to not be a threat. The information that this dumb bitch was making threats was 100% accurate and worth keeping the penny worth of drive space it would require to store.

If it turns out to not be a threat, then yes it IS an error. The idea is to protect the President from any threat on his life, none of which was here. Once that is determined why on Earth do they need to keep the file? Police don't keep a file on every person they suspect of every crime, especially once they've proven the person isn't guilty. That same logic should apply here. If she posed a real threat, yeah keep tabs on her, otherwise respect for a person's privacy should come first.