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By youandwhosearmy
I believe nothing is impossible though, so I'm by no means asking anyone to stand on the edge of that cliff with me.

I disagree with this impossible idea; many things are. Singularities for one could not exist; that idea is purely theoretical.

However, space travel through wormholes as you suggested is quite feasible, although there may be problems in terms of coming out of one alive.

Have you heard of the M-theory? It was the extension of string theory, where instead of saying there are 10 dimensions in our universe, it said there were 11 dimensions.
It also stated that there are infinite other universes (that's where I disagree with such theories) and it explains the beginning of our universe without a singularity, which I like. (It states all the matter came through the 11th dimension, as opposed to always being there)

[Tracer]

M-Theroy is less science than it is philosophy. Right now, it's fancy math and even fancier (fancifull is more like it) ideas behind it. There's reason to investigate it, certianly, but there's no reason to subscribe to its picture of the universe.

I disagree with this impossible idea; many things are. Singularities for one could not exist; that idea is purely theoretical.

However, space travel through wormholes as you suggested is quite feasible, although there may be problems in terms of coming out of one alive.

For talk of M-Theory, which is so steeped in quantum physics, impossible should be far out of its vocabulary. Quantum Theory typically makes even the most abstract and bizzare things possible though nearly infintesimally improbable. Furthermore, wormholes require the possiblity of a singularity for the idea to even work. And thats all they really are. Ideas. Wormholes are way ahead of our physics, and untill there is a unified field theory, they will continue to be convienient sci-fi loop-holes than science practice.

When I said there were ways to travel in space while marginalizing some of the drawbacks we currently face, I meant with known science, not the bleeding edge of theoretical chalk-board ponderances which cannot at the momement be even tested in the laboratory or by astronomical observation.

I'm not calling these things impossible. The fact is, you simply don't know.

Manned space-flight, currently, faces obstacles but many of these can be countered by current science, if not current technology. Money, need, and effort of application are all of whats stopping most of these things.

[Lobo]

The Future is not now.


U R NOT R

[Tracer]

I'm not red-are.

[station82o]

heh yeah wasn't it supposed to be a e ?

[youandwhosearmy]

I disagree with this impossible idea; many things are. Singularities for one could not exist; that idea is purely theoretical.

However, space travel through wormholes as you suggested is quite feasible, although there may be problems in terms of coming out of one alive.

Have you heard of the M-theory? It was the extension of string theory, where instead of saying there are 10 dimensions in our universe, it said there were 11 dimensions.
It also stated that there are infinite other universes (that's where I disagree with such theories) and it explains the beginning of our universe without a singularity, which I like. (It states all the matter came through the 11th dimension, as opposed to always being there)

I like the idea but I agree with Tracer on that one. I mean hey I love my conspiracy radio show and all (Coast to Coast AM), but when it comes to raw science I don't always trust it (I heard about M theory there first).

The idea fits the pieces fairly well though. And your statement about singularities is correct, but understand, I was specifying the idea of loopholes around these problems, cheats if you will. Not outright solutions.

I will always come back to this when backed into a corner...

If you look at the massive leap in technology over the past 100 years and if we had listened to people tell us about the impossible, we never would have had moving pictures, airplanes, sound barrier breaks, landing on the moon, and microprocessers. I simply will not except that our creative impass and desire to go somewhere (anywhere in the universe) can hit a brick wall (well maybe a nuclear war). The way we develop can only speed up, and I don't think it will slow down until we've done everything there is to do in the universe.

Manned space-flight, currently, faces obstacles but many of these can be countered by current science, if not current technology. Money, need, and effort of application are all of whats stopping most of these things.

If you don't believe him just read that article in Wired magazine from last year about the space elevator and how quickly that could happen if someone would just get motivated to do it.

[Jetman]

Have you heard of the M-theory? It was the extension of string theory, where instead of saying there are 10 dimensions in our universe, it said there were 11 dimensions.
It also stated that there are infinite other universes (that's where I disagree with such theories) and it explains the beginning of our universe without a singularity, which I like. (It states all the matter came through the 11th dimension, as opposed to always being there)

M-Theory? So why 10 dimensions instead of 15 or 143 or 10076 dimensions? I know a theory is just something that hasnt been proven, but what knowledge does this person derive to formulate this fantastical idea, if any?

[station82o]

If you don't believe him just read that article in Wired magazine from last year about the space elevator and how quickly that could happen if someone would just get motivated to do it.

Space elevator? O?

[JefmcC]

Space elevator? O?

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.04/nanotech.html

Funny thing about the space elevator is it's the modern day Tower of Babel.
I also think the space elevator will never happen. In theory, I guess it could be built, but anyone with a little common sense knows it's not going to. While I'd like to believe that somewhere out in a hidden ocean (ala Contact) there is going to be an elevator to the moon, uh yeah.

Besides, the moon is hardly space travel. I'm not even 100% convinced we've actually been there yet. More like 99% sure, but it's entirely possible in my mind it was staged to fight communism. But that's for another crack-pot discussion.

Real space travel will not happen without massive restructuring of the human body. IF nano tech becomes advanced enough, IF genetic engineering gets far enough, then it will be possible. Humans need to evolve themselves to the next level, beyond purely organic, in order to just survive long term space travel.

Personally, I think we will face a global resource crash/shortage well before this will ever happen. Every great civilization in history managed to wipe itself out, I see no reason why ours is any different.

IMO.

[station82o]

The next phase of evolution > Robosapiens! Lets' fucking make them now and shoot them on up there. Heehaw!