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Thread: "The HD era really only starts when we are on the market" says Sony's Phil Harrison

  1. Quote Originally Posted by Andrew
    Pornography?
    Actually, I'm pretty sure he was talking about games, and how much more sense it would make if, like DVD, there were a single standard for which anyone could make players and the publishers didn't have to fight the manufacturers for approval on niche projects. Of course, this would give rise to a host of new problems, not the least of which being how to sustain such a system and not have Nintendo or whoever go ahead and make their own competing hardware anyway.

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    I like doing stuff with animals and kids


  2. Quote Originally Posted by TaekwondoNJ
    Talking about the higher framerate in future games.... can the human eye even perceive ANY noticeable difference higher than 60fps???
    Yep. Take an older game like Quake 3 or something, and run it through a powerful videocard. You can get ridiculous framerates. I've never seen this in person mind you, but people (people here, even) swear there's a big difference.
    -Kyo

  3. Quote Originally Posted by StriderKyo
    Yep. Take an older game like Quake 3 or something, and run it through a powerful videocard. You can get ridiculous framerates. I've never seen this in person mind you, but people (people here, even) swear there's a big difference.
    You won't see a difference past 60fps, but you will "feel" a difference. It is mainly due to more frames = a better chance of you never seeing the same frame twice, and hence no perceived gaps in visual information. In games with a lot of action, more is always better.

    Military tests have shown that people can "feel" the difference up to 200fps, but you aren't hindered at all past 60-75fps.

    PS: Many people get more motion sickness at framerates at or above 60-75fps because the brain can get confused.

    The reason none of this matters is you need dual HDMI cables to run the different flavors of 1080p, and it hasn't even been confirmed any of them are 1080p/60fps (the other flavors being 1080p/24fps, 1080p/25fps, 1080p/30fps). Regardless of that, no sets that do HD of any kind go above 60fps. Again, it is a moot point.

    PPS: Why do people keep talking about the dual HDMI ports as if the intent is to have 2 HDTVs hooked up at once? Isn't that for 1080p which requires 2 HDMI channels?

  4. 1080p doesn't require 2 HDMI channels.
    The 23" Apple Cinema Display has a resolution of 1920x1200@60Hz and uses a single channel DVI connection (same video signal as HDMI).

    Anyway, I really notice a lot of improvement in image quality at higher refresh rates, at least on a CRT.

    I can't stand using a CRT monitor at anything less than 85Hz at higher resolutions, but anything beyond 100Hz looks about the same for me.

    I really can't tell the difference between 60Hz and 75Hz on an LCD, though, because the pixel response limits the physical refresh, and LCDs are immune to scan flicker.

    Quote Originally Posted by StriderKyo
    Yep. Take an older game like Quake 3 or something, and run it through a powerful videocard. You can get ridiculous framerates. I've never seen this in person mind you, but people (people here, even) swear there's a big difference.
    IBTN.
    I play the first Quake at 100Hz and the fluidity of motion and sharpness of the image are far better than at 60Hz.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Master
    PS: Many people get more motion sickness at framerates at or above 60-75fps because the brain can get confused.
    I've noticed when an FPS has less than 30fps, I get motion sickness. I couldn't play Duke Nukem on the Saturn, because of the framerate, yet Halo doesn't bother me at all.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by kedawa
    1080p doesn't require 2 HDMI channels.
    The 23" Apple Cinema Display has a resolution of 1920x1200@60Hz and uses a single channel DVI connection (same video signal as HDMI).
    Yeah, I don't know where I got that from...

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Master
    Yeah, I don't know where I got that from...
    http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...y/13397202.htm

    High Definition: PS3 supports dual HDMI output of 1080p – a better resolution than the 360 offers. It can be displayed over two monitors or TVs. The difference is in the ‘p’ designation; in short it means progressive scan, which is better than interlace, but 1080i is nothing to quibble over either. In fact, the most common HDTV’s only support 780p, which both systems can output. And of course they will both work with standard TVs.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Dylan1CC

    ha That was awesome, bahn.
    LOL. I was hoping you catch that.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by bahn
    LOL. I was hoping you catch that.
    Is got-next dead?

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