Official Onimusha 4 Thread

[Space Pirate Roberts]

Does the upgrade system allow you to carry progress over from one playthrough to the next, like DMC, or force you to start over each time, like the previous Oni's?

[Korly]

Sooo... what's the deal with the SF characters? Are they just costumes? Does using the costume unlock hadokens or something? I must know more!

[Will]

Sooo... what's the deal with the SF characters? Are they just costumes? Does using the costume unlock hadokens or something? I must know more!

I believe they're just skins but basically the same characters underneath.

[Korly]

I believe they're just skins but basically the same characters underneath.

Weak.

[Will]

Indeed.

Still, cool game. I might make it my first Onimusha game and I'm glad that they aren't going with the whole "actor visage" of the previous games. It just sucks that the graphics aren't that great, it would have looked awesome on a PS3 for sure.

[ssbomberman]

Does the upgrade system allow you to carry progress over from one playthrough to the next, like DMC, or force you to start over each time, like the previous Oni's?

Upgrade system is poor. I beat the game finally at 30 hours and unlocked all 3 special contumes, goofy weapons, and most of the reg weapons and accessories, but the only way to carry over is to play normal mode again. If I start a new mode, i.e. hard, oni mode, etc. you start from scratch. This pisses me off.

So it seems like some kid didn't receive his OPM in the mail since I had received one in my mailbox a couple of days ago which had various demos, one of which included Onimusha 4.

I've only played a bit of Onimusha 1 and I enjoyed it so I'm not burnt out on the series or anything which led me to give the demo a shot, surprisingly I had a good deal of fun. The combo system is still way too simplified especially after the DMC games but otherwise it played fairly smoothly. My only problem is that well, it's a PS2 game so I was hit with very grainy/jag fest within the first battle.

The main character looks kind of cool and the CG is incredibly good (if you're not numbed by CG already) with the voicework being pretty decent. I'll most likely get it for $20 whenever it hits that price so for now I guess I'll just keep playing the demo.

I'm in the opposite camp, I didn't really enjoy DMC after the first one. I've been playing through 3, but it doesn't feel as tight to me as Oni 4. There is a combo system in Oni 4, but it's more based on kills in a given time frame. For me I like the newest version because you have an upgradeable arsenal of special moves along with criticals and everything + you can switch on the fly between both characters + if you do a level 3 attack then hit L2 at max charge your partner and you do a super oni spell that rocks the enemy. I've always played Oni as a counter game, so for me I don't like that I have to be so agressive in DMC lol. I like to wait for my enemy to attack, react and then launch into a massive critical that clears the room (so yes I totally see your point DMC and GoW are still pretty much the pinnacle of 3D action games).

But for me, I guess I like the confines of the system. I felt the same way about RE4, I like that I am limited and once I have too much freedom ala DMC, I get bored. It's strange according to most people I talk to, but oh well.

Sooo... what's the deal with the SF characters? Are they just costumes? Does using the costume unlock hadokens or something? I must know more!

Special costume 3 are the SF costumes. They are just for looks, but you also get music along when you wear them. Like Soki is Ryu, so you get the SF theme when you start the game again. Roberto as Guile is spot on. The others costumes are just ok. I prefer special costumes 1 and 2 over the SF ones.

Indeed.

Still, cool game. I might make it my first Onimusha game and I'm glad that they aren't going with the whole "actor visage" of the previous games. It just sucks that the graphics aren't that great, it would have looked awesome on a PS3 for sure.

I dunno. To me it looks the best the series has looked yet. CG movies are really clean and well done. It still doesn't support progressive scan though so that sucks, but comparing Oni 4 side by side with DMC3, I think Oni looks better, but I played them both in RGB.

BTW, in an unrelated note: can you guys tell me if they included the intro in the demo disc for the US version and if it's the same as the Japanese, i.e. Startin' by Ayu playing while they show quick cuts of the game. It's probably one of the coolest intros I've seen on the PS2, I hope they didn't cut it.

[WTFer]

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[Will]

I'm in the opposite camp, I didn't really enjoy DMC after the first one. I've been playing through 3, but it doesn't feel as tight to me as Oni 4. There is a combo system in Oni 4, but it's more based on kills in a given time frame. For me I like the newest version because you have an upgradeable arsenal of special moves along with criticals and everything + you can switch on the fly between both characters + if you do a level 3 attack then hit L2 at max charge your partner and you do a super oni spell that rocks the enemy. I've always played Oni as a counter game, so for me I don't like that I have to be so agressive in DMC lol. I like to wait for my enemy to attack, react and then launch into a massive critical that clears the room (so yes I totally see your point DMC and GoW are still pretty much the pinnacle of 3D action games).

But for me, I guess I like the confines of the system. I felt the same way about RE4, I like that I am limited and once I have too much freedom ala DMC, I get bored. It's strange according to most people I talk to, but oh well.

I can understand that. Personally, I like having more variety in number of moves and attacks per button but I can still enjoy a game like Onimusha 4 and Resident Evil 4 on it's own merits and play system.

I dunno. To me it looks the best the series has looked yet. CG movies are really clean and well done. It still doesn't support progressive scan though so that sucks, but comparing Oni 4 side by side with DMC3, I think Oni looks better, but I played them both in RGB.

I haven't really compared them side by side or anything but the PS2 graphics in general have worn out their welcome, especially with the next generation systems coming up. I was hoping that the Onimisha series would end in 3 for the PS2 system and continue onto PS3 with some really great and amped up graphics but I'll take what I can get I guess, as long as it's fun and looks decent enough. I actually thought the game looked better in the in-game cut scenes than the gameplay but *shrug* maybe I have to see more of the game.

BTW, in an unrelated note: can you guys tell me if they included the intro in the demo disc for the US version and if it's the same as the Japanese, i.e. Startin' by Ayu playing while they show quick cuts of the game. It's probably one of the coolest intros I've seen on the PS2, I hope they didn't cut it.

Hmm, haven't noticed it yet but I'll tell you if it's in once I replay it.

[Gooch]

There is a combo system in Oni 4, but it's more based on kills in a given time frame.

Sounds just like the tate kills in Shinobi (and presumably Nightshade, which I have never played).

I heard there is a Shadow of the Colossus-like boss. Hot stuff. I'm keeping an eye on the U.S. release; Capcom's been on a hell of a roll on the PS2 with RE4, DMC3, and hopefully this.

[ssbomberman]

Sounds just like the tate kills in Shinobi (and presumably Nightshade, which I have never played).

I heard there is a Shadow of the Colossus-like boss. Hot stuff. I'm keeping an eye on the U.S. release; Capcom's been on a hell of a roll on the PS2 with RE4, DMC3, and hopefully this.

Bosses in general are kind of weak, well nothing to get too excited over, cause once you are powered up, they get owned so quickly. Nothing to the level of the game you speak of, but still decent enough. Overall, I think Capcom produced another A title and at a 40 dollar price point, I think and hope it will sell well. This is Capcom's strength, so I'm at least happy that they are doing something solid these days if they are going to continue to ignore the fighting game genre.