How to get an abortion from a South Dakotan Republican

[g0zen]

But how accurate would something like that be? How do you get that kind of info to have stastical data? infanticide is typically something people try to hide.

Did you not read the fucking post, IronPlant? I said I got the statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics website. Ergo, that means it's data taken from police records from across the country. So, cases of infanticide not discovered obviously don't factor in. As for your stupid bullshit statement that 'infanticide is something people try to hide' my response is that homicide is something people also try to hide to but it doesn't always work out for them, IronPlant.

So, you can trust these infanticide figures with as much certainty as you can trust homicide figures.

But how accurate would something like that be? How do you get that kind of info to have stastical data? infanticide is typically something people try to hide.

Did you actually take the time to read the fucking post, IronPlant? I said the data was taken from the Bureau of Justice Statistics website. It shouldn't be fucking rocket science to assume that the data is collected from police records. So, yes, that would mean that any cases of infanticide that aren't discovered cannot be factored in.

Your dumbass comment about infanticide being 'something people try to hide' is laughable. People try to hide homicide too, IronPlant. Almost any crime for that matter. That's a 'nah-duh' of crime statistics. However, as someone who has a fucking clue about statistical analysis, I can say that the amount of data collected is sufficient to outweigh the presence of a few unknowns.

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[Mikey]

You ever heard of postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis?

I was going to include a pre-emptive dismissal about that, but I thought people would be sensible enough not to mention it, as post-partum depression is an unpredictable result of any pregnancy, wanted or unwanted. It's a psycho-chemical condition and has nothing to do with the conditions under which the child was conceived.

Countries where abortion is illegal have no higher incidence of infanticide.

[Fe 26]

Did you not read the fucking post, IronPlant? I said I got the statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics website. Ergo, that means it's data taken from police records from across the country. So, cases of infanticide not discovered obviously don't factor in. As for your stupid bullshit statement that 'infanticide is something people try to hide' my response is that homicide is something people also try to hide to but it doesn't always work out for them, IronPlant.

So, you can trust these infanticide figures with as much certainty as you can trust homicide figures.



Did you actually take the time to read the fucking post, IronPlant? I said the data was taken from the Bureau of Justice Statistics website. It shouldn't be fucking rocket science to assume that the data is collected from police records. So, yes, that would mean that any cases of infanticide that aren't discovered cannot be factored in.

Your dumbass comment about infanticide being 'something people try to hide' is laughable. People try to hide homicide too, IronPlant. Almost any crime for that matter. That's a 'nah-duh' of crime statistics. However, as someone who has a fucking clue about statistical analysis, I can say that the amount of data collected is sufficient to outweigh the presence of a few unknowns.

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That is new. You bitched about the same thing I said twice.

Maybe you need to put me on ignore.

Anyway, there is a bit of a difference between homicide and infanticide. People are going to notice when an adult falls off the face of the earth. An adult leaves a void in a community, a unborn baby does not. So, no you can't trust these figures as much as homicide records. One has a better chance of getting the correct number of cases than the other.

BTW, do you ever read anything you post? How you figure that I'm a bigger sandy vagina than you is beyond comprehension. You literally explode all over the board in rants of filth and hate over nothing.

[Omni]

Why do you even try anymore, IP?

Everytime you try to sound smart it just bites you in the ass. You're not very good at debating, so leave it to someone else. All those years of terrible grammar probably don't help either. Stick to math or something.

[Fe 26]

There is no trying to it. I am smart. At my worst I talk about things I'm not completely informed about.

Just because I look at things differently and/or don't agree with others, does not make me stupid.

The only thing stupid that I do is continue to debate things with people who are unable to discuss anything in a civil manner.

This isn't an issue of being smart. It is a matter of me liking casual conversation while TNL does not. Threads here boil down into two things, people posting random 5 word sentences and violent arguments were someone try's to "win." I piss josh off when I try to turn a 5 word reply threads into conversations and I piss gozen off when I try to talk casually about something he wants to be serious about.

I probably should just stop posting on TNL because I rarely enjoy doing either of those two things. I'm not very good at coming up with clever one sentence replies, and I'm to fucking lazy to research things to try to pwn the rest of you in these little stupid arguments you enjoy so much.

But if I come off as a shitty debater it is because I'm not trying to debate. I'm just jabbing the jaw, shooting the shit, talking out my ass, etc, etc. I don't know why you guys let that bother you.

[burgundy]

There would not. The emotional connection with the child only happens after birth. That's what makes abortion possible for a mother.

Mothers feel differently about the baby once it's born. Plenty of women hadn't planned a pregnancy and didn't want a child until it was born, when suddenly, once born, it gave their life new meaning. Pregnancy is by its nature unwanted or unexpected.

Every keystroke of this post is horseshit.

[g0zen]

The issue with the double posts in my post is due to some strange technical glitch in TNL that kept eating my posts, or so I thought.

Oh and before I forget to mention it, IronPlant is still a whiny douche and a moron.

[Fe 26]

I feel the same way about you gozen.

[FirstBlood]

But if I come off as a shitty debater it is because I'm not trying to debate. I'm just jabbing the jaw, shooting the shit, talking out my ass, etc, etc. I don't know why you guys let that bother you.

If you're "just shooting the shit", then stop defending your retarded comments as if they're valid.

[Fe 26]

I probably would if a few certain someone's wouldn't attach insults with their opinions.

And not everything I say is retarded. In some instances you guys are just stupid and are simply unable to grasp what I'm trying to say.

An example would be earlier about homicide and infanticide. It is a fact that the accuracy of the two are not equal. Human studies just don't work that way. We are talking about one of the basic differences between concrete science and social sciences. You do not get equal accuracy in studies of two different human behaviors like you might with something like motion or gravity. There is lot more "gray area" when you start dealing with people.

Because of that, it is perfectly reasonable to question the stats. And there is nothing stupid about pointing out that there might be a larger number of baby deaths left out of the stats when compared to homicides for the simple reason that it is easier to kill a baby and get away with it than it is to kill a person and get away with it. That may seem silly to you, but it is a very important part of the stat considering the stat comes from how many cases of each that they find.


And how the hell am I always the bad guy in this shit? I ask a simple question about some stupid stats and dickface over there goes ape shit, and yet I'm the stupid one that needs to get his act together and quit being retarded. What is this, Bizzaro land where it is ok to be a dumbass as long as you are really really really fucking hateful about it?