Graphic Design Discussion and Questions

[rama]

I think Photoshop and computers are a crutch and prevent people from developing necessary artistic skills.

i know a lot of talented artists and illustrators who use computers and photoshop and whatever to enhance their work. it may be a crutch for some, but it's just another tool for others...just like pen and ink.

[Jester]

Brush strokes in whatever computer program can look like shit. If you spend more than three minutes on it, it can look nice, and different enough to justify itself. You can't erase ink and paint quite as easily in real life.

Plus paint can be pretty damned expensive. A hell of a lot more than PS and a computer if you use them both equally over the same amount of time.

[ChaoofNee]

Plus paint can be pretty damned expensive. A hell of a lot more than PS and a computer if you use them both equally over the same amount of time.

This is very true. I can't believe little tubes of oil paint are just under $10 a piece.

[rezo]

But they can last a pretty long time. Art on a computer is only cheap when you don't pay for the programs, I think.

[FirstBlood]

But they can last a pretty long time. Art on a computer is only cheap when you don't pay for the programs, I think.

Programs, paper, tablets, printers.

Students tend to take their school labs for granted.

[YellerDog]

As a student, I didn't pay for one program. Not. One. Any lab worth a shit has that one guy with a spindle full of install CD's.

That said, we had an awesome lab at SCAD, especially when they'd keep up maintence on the pencil test machines.

Traditional materials teach you to do things right the first time, and you tend to get more spontanious results from 'em, IMHO. Expensive, sometimes, but there is nothing in art school that isn't free for the resourceful.

[Finch]

Expensive, sometimes, but there is nothing in art school that isn't free for the resourceful.

Did Ex Libris have cameras? There was that one guy who offered to get me any kind of drug i wanted, but i never took him up on that.

[YellerDog]

Better: Ex Libris was staffed by college students.

Hanging around the dorms at the end of quarters was the best way to rack up free shit I have ever encountered. Halls full of expensive art supplies and furniture. Pampered idiots will throw anything away, and it is fantastic. +1 easel, +1 drawing table, +1 mini-fridge, +1 box of prismacolors, etc.

[Finch]

Better: Ex Libris was staffed by college students.

Hanging around the dorms at the end of quarters was the best way to rack up free shit I have ever encountered. Halls full of expensive art supplies and furniture. Pampered idiots will throw anything away, and it is fantastic.

Ha ha, you're right. I got a bike and a few pads of bristol paper that way.

[Drewbacca]

Yea but that's no fun. Teachers can have plenty of useful advice, but if someone is insisting that I draw a straight line and they're mad all I want is doodles, then fuck em, they can draw the straight line. I dropped my graphic design major after just a couple of classes, I hated that shit. Fonts and negative spaces are stupid if all they culminate into is a Burger King billboard. I could give a shit how clever the minimalism of that picture of a single sesame seed against a white background is. No matter how good it gets, it's still fucking Burger King. It's not your own.

Graphic design is the practical application of art for commercialism and industry. There are, however, more applications than billboards and ads for the graphic designer. Finding magazines and art houses to work at to open these avenues to you is the tricky part.

You'll always be told by someone bigger and higher up in a company than you to change something. You'll have something wicked and someone will come along and say this doesn't meet our philosophy or my tastes and change it. I'm going to be my own boss within the next three years, fingers crossed, and when I have artists working for me I am going to take their input with the utmost sincerity, but until then you have to be satisfied with being someone elses monkey.

This goes for any field. The parameters change slightly but the outcome is the same. You = monkey for an older guy, most of the time dumber than you.

Programs, paper, tablets, printers.

Ink is the most expensive, depending on what kind of stock you're running with.

Better: Ex Libris was staffed by college students.

Hanging around the dorms at the end of quarters was the best way to rack up free shit I have ever encountered. Halls full of expensive art supplies and furniture. Pampered idiots will throw anything away, and it is fantastic. +1 easel, +1 drawing table, +1 mini-fridge, +1 box of prismacolors, etc.

Some kid got an F in first year graphic design. He was upset and luckily for me his locker was right beside me. He was quitting over this F and decided to give away all of his stuff. I made out with T-squares, matte paper, markers, and a whole bunch of rubber cement.

Last I heard he didn't quit and was looking for me to get his stuff back. I would've given it back but I never saw him again.