The great wall of Mexico.

[outRider]

Well, if Dubbya wants to protect our borders so much now, why doesn't he start with the one where the 9/11 terrorits crossed? You know, the OTHER border.

The only one not defending the border where the terrorits who caused the worst attacks in U.S. history came from?

Yeah.

5 years later and people still believe that rubbish. Unless you're referring to your 'border' with the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, I can tell you that none of the 9/11 terrorists crossed from the OTHER border, it's been proven false time and again.

Now back to your regularly scheduled debate.

[rezo]

What's wrong with having national pride? When did it become wrong to want your stuff kept in it's original form.

Should we make a spanish version of the consitution?

Sure. Are you less proud to be an American when more people read your country's laws? Seriously debating whether or not the national anthem should be sang in other languages is a waste of time; But people will devote as much attention to things like this and whether or not non-christmas holidays should be allowed to exist in late december as anything else, and

Becuase an issue brought up in an election year is pointless.

the parties take advantage of it.

also:

http://www.constitutioncenter.org/ex...anguages.shtml

[Bluelake]

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Bush that is a stupid punk.I would literary give him a stone cold stnner and put him to sleep for a week in the hospital.

[Fe 26]

You vaguely had a point until you said this. This is garbage. Any thought that comes into people's heads is not instantly valid, that's ridiculous. People make their 'thoughts or feelings' valid by making a convincing case for them, i.e. giving reasons why they think a certain way and why you should to.

Something being valid to ME, and something being valid to a democracy/republic are two different things.

Hell, a lot of the problems we are having right now are because of that one little flaw with democracies/republics. The stupidest people's wants/feelings/desies matter just as much as those of the educated. Polticians know this, and pander to it.

[Drewbacca]

Bush that is a stupid punk.I would literary give him a stone cold stnner and put him to sleep for a week in the hospital.

Why not a tombstone piledriver?

[g0zen]

LOL.

You just lost your citizenship, GTFO of Fortress Amercia.

IBTN

I forget who said it, but our country was founded on those principles.

No it wasn't. And it's not your country anyway.

Becuase an issue brought up in an election year is pointless.

Wrong. It goes to the heart of the matter, that it's only a big problem now that elections are on the horizon when before no one really cared.

What's wrong with having national pride? When did it become wrong to want your stuff kept in it's original form.

Patriotism =/= Nationalistic bullshit like this

Should we make a spanish version of the consitution?

Absolutely. The Constitution should be printed in every language because it's the content of the document, not the document itself, that is important.

[Yoshi]

Guns are not illegal here, only automatics and some semi-automatics. I surely hope you aren't trying to make fun of Australia because we don't have an out of control gun culture like you guys do.

Of course you don't. Who's stupid enough to let guns loose in a prison colony?

Bush that is a stupid punk.I would literary give him a stone cold stnner and put him to sleep for a week in the hospital.

And you're a 19 year-old, who doesn't know shit about shit. Coming from San Francisco, you probably are referring to a "Stone cold stunner" with your purse. STFU.

[Melf]

5 years later and people still believe that rubbish. Unless you're referring to your 'border' with the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, I can tell you that none of the 9/11 terrorists crossed from the OTHER border, it's been proven false time and again.

Now back to your regularly scheduled debate.

You know, you're right. I must have gotten the 9/11 attempts confused with the Millennium Plot terrorists, the ones who tried to blow up NY's subway system, and Ahmed Ressam (planned to blow up L.A.'s airport when he was caught crossing the border); all of whom came from Canada.

[SpoDaddy]

Gozen cracks me up. He's the stereotype liberal that gets all his "news" from the Daily Show, and can't wait to throw around all those fancy words he just learned like "nationalism" while blaming every problem in the modern world on Haliburton.

I'll summarize every Gozen post from now on to save everyone time; pride in your country/patriotism = redneck hick practicing juvenile nationalism, everyone that disagrees with gozen = Bush loving neocon in Haliburton's pocket, Bush planned 9/11. In conclusion, Clinton got head so he's great and Reagan sucked because he was a Republican.

Of course you don't. Who's stupid enough to let guns loose in a prison colony?

And you're a 19 year-old, who doesn't know shit about shit. Coming from San Francisco, you probably are referring to a "Stone cold stunner" with your purse. STFU.

Best Yoshi post ever.

[Diff-chan]

Gozen cracks me up. He's the stereotype liberal that gets all his "news" from the Daily Show, and can't wait to throw around all those fancy words he just learned like "nationalism" while blaming every problem in the modern world on Haliburton.

I'll summarize every Gozen post from now on to save everyone time; pride in your country/patriotism = redneck hick practicing juvenile nationalism, everyone that disagrees with gozen = Bush loving neocon in Haliburton's pocket, Bush planned 9/11. In conclusion, Clinton got head so he's great and Reagan sucked because he was a Republican.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem