LOL @ HD-DVD

[Timber]

But either way, all one camp needs to do to kill the other is ship a sub $300 player. The first format to do that will win, regardless of content.

QFT

[B-Ri]

i dont get what this has to do with blu-ray unless theyve announced double sided blu-rays cause they couldnt get the movie on a single sided disc.

[stormy]

Here's the main problem: DVD upconverted on an HDTV looks really damn good.

Why go to a new format then?

VHS was booted out the door because DVD
*didn't need to be rewound
*took 100,000 x less shelf space
*had a better picture
*boosted the audio up to 6 channels
*offered subtitles and dubbed languages without buying the title a second time.
*Could instantly skip to any part of the movie.
*Would not degrade picture/sound quality over multiple playings.


So, what do these new formats have over DVD?
*better picture.


It's a tough battle.

I've had an Oppo for a year or so now and it's nice, but HD content still shits all over it.

HD-DVD and BluRay have better sound in addition to better picture. They also have more interactive features but I don't think these are totally implemented yet.

[haohmaru]

I'm sold.

You forgot about flipping the LD...

Edit - missed that somebody nailed this.

And yeah, the units that flipped the discs automatically were routinely over a grand.

[Dolemite]

Here's the main problem: DVD upconverted on an HDTV looks really damn good.

Why go to a new format then?

VHS was booted out the door because DVD
*didn't need to be rewound
*took 100,000 x less shelf space
*had a better picture
*boosted the audio up to 6 channels
*offered subtitles and dubbed languages without buying the title a second time.
*Could instantly skip to any part of the movie.
*Would not degrade picture/sound quality over multiple playings.


So, what do these new formats have over DVD?
*better picture.


It's a tough battle.

Under standard DVD, you forgot to list special features (commentaries, deleted scenes, making-ofs, etc). It's something Blu-Ray sorely lacks.

[Chux]

I was looking at a release list up to like may.

There are at least 5x more blu ray dvd's coming out than hd.

[Timber]

It's something Blu-Ray sorely lacks.

Blu-Ray's don't have any special features? Almost all of my HD-DVDs have just as much stuff as the regular DVDs.

There are at least 5x more blu ray dvd's coming out than hd.

This makes me a sad panda.

[MechDeus]

And yeah, the units that flipped the discs automatically were routinely over a grand.

So were DVD players.

[Some Stupid Japanese Name]

I was an early DVD adopter, and in the beginning there were discs that had to be flipped. Only one comes to mind was Seven, but I know I had others as well. What a pain in the ass.
I apologize to everyone who supported HD DVD over Bluray. I recently got into HD DVD myself, so that clinches it. Bluray will win.
For proof, I'll list all the consoles I bought as my primary console for their generation. Sega Master System, Turbo Grafx, Saturn, Dreamcast.
Again, I apologize for killing the format.

[Timber]

The only DVD I ever had the needed to be flipped was Stargate. And that was the 3rd DVD I ever owned. I almost gave up on the format when I thought more movies would be like that.