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  1. How is that possibly the proper way to say that?

    Say it outloud. Do you pause between the words "life" and "no"? I don't. I don't know a single person that would. If a comma is used to show a break in speech, and there's no break in speech, why would you put a comma?

  2. Quote Originally Posted by Joust Williams View Post
    Actually, you do need that first comma. You have a sentence with two different clauses each with a different subject.

    edit: I got owned
    The first comma I can understand I suppose, though it still shouldn't have been needed for anyone here to keep up with what I was saying.

    The second one is still needless.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Everyone but you understood it. Which means the problem is 100% on your end.
    Everyone on here understands John and Sega Saturn X. That doesn't mean they can write.



    Why on earth would I put commas in those two spots?

    Is there a break between the words "life" and "no"? No. Is it normal to put commas before the word "and" when there's only two thoughts being connected? No.

    Again, it's not my fault you can't read english.
    A comma between "life" isn't necessary (but it's still correct), but a comma after "and" is required to clear up ambiguity, given your sentence structure. Otherwise the sentence could be read two ways (considering the many people who post run-on sentences on forums):

    "She should go to jail and for the rest of her life. No child should be in her custody."

    "She should go to jail, and for the rest of her life no child should be in her custody."

    The best way to convey that thought is:

    "She should go to jail. No child should be in her custody for the rest of her life."

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Tracer View Post

    But yeah everyone understood it, Nash is splitting hairs. On a message board with posta, I see no reason why this should be a big deal.
    It becomes a habit in everyday reading after you've read a ton of statutes where punctuation is really important.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by icarusfall View Post
    I'm not saying this in a shitty way, I'm curious as to how you came to your view. Have any of you ever been in a situation that you could really call desperate? How about the fear? Ever been down that road? Not scared because you got mugged once, I mean soul-destroying-paralysis fear.
    This argument is always used on the Internet for various subjects and it never works. You don't have to experience something to have an opinion on it. There are cases where that's not true, but I hardly think any of us need to feel the world's most soul-shattering fear to understand that this kid was in the absolute care of his mother and she let him die.

    I can feel empathy for those in life-altering situations that they perhaps were not ready for, but I can't feel remorse for what this woman gets. Like I said earlier, this isn't like the kid accidentally drowned in a bathtub while she answered a phone call from work. She got fucking plastered, threw up in a bucket, passed out, and her kid died in her vomit. This is negligence and bad parenting of the highest order, and I don't feel any empathy for her just like I wouldn't feel bad for a drunk driver that kills people.

    Would you be as empathetic if it was your own mom that had let you die in her vomit?
    Last edited by Tommy Tallarico; 23 Sep 2006 at 10:19 PM.


    "I can only say that there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of slavery." - Tommy Tallarico

  6. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    How is that possibly the proper way to say that?

    Say it outloud. Do you pause between the words "life" and "no"? I don't. I don't know a single person that would. If a comma is used to show a break in speech, and there's no break in speech, why would you put a comma?
    commas are not for pauses. They are for seperating "stuff" in sentences.

  7. Opaque is the new buttcheeks. That retarded comma explanation is worse than the posta explanation.


    "I can only say that there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of slavery." - Tommy Tallarico

  8. No commas were needed in Opaque's sentence because the thoughts were seperated by the "and." He could have formed the sentence differently, but he only way to misinterpret the sentence is to miss the "and" in between the two thoughts. Nash posted the quote as if to say that Opaque was suggesting life in prison for the girl. He didn't read the quote fully.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Calliander View Post
    No commas were needed in Opaque's sentence because the thoughts were seperated by the "and." He could have formed the sentence differently, but he only way to misinterpret the sentence is to miss the "and" in between the two thoughts. Nash posted the quote as if to say that Opaque was suggesting life in prison for the girl. He didn't read the quote fully.
    I read the quote fully. The sentence was ambiguous.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Calliander View Post
    No commas were needed in Opaque's sentence because the thoughts were seperated by the "and." He could have formed the sentence differently, but he only way to misinterpret the sentence is to miss the "and" in between the two thoughts. Nash posted the quote as if to say that Opaque was suggesting life in prison for the girl. He didn't read the quote fully.
    Logically, the sentence makes sense read only one way, but the comma makes the sentence clearer. Yes, it's perfectly understandable as it's written, but it's still shitty writing.

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