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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Saint of Killers View Post
    He already fought once in Pride, beat a Japanese tomato can.
    I understand what "tomato can" means (basically a scrub), but where does the term itself come from?

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  2. It was originally a boxing term, but beyond that I have no idea.

  3. In the context of American boxing or mixed martial arts, a tomato can is a boxer with poor or diminished skills who may be considered an easy opponent to defeat, or a "guaranteed win." Fights with Tomato cans can be arranged to inflate the win total of a professional fighter.

    A tomato can is usually a fighter with a poor record, whose skills are substandard or who lacks toughness or has a "glass chin." Sometimes a formerly successful boxer who is past his prime and who has seen his skills diminish is considered a tomato can if he can no longer compete at a high level. Such an individual is an attractive opponent if his name still carries prestige but his diminished skills make him an easy conquest.

    Most fighters who are considered tomato cans are heavyweights, because at lower weight classes one must maintain a certain level of fitness in order to make weight, whereas a heavyweight who once fought at a trim 205 pounds could conceivably gain 150 pounds and still fight in the same division.

    One characteristic which may account for the use of the "tomato can" metaphor for a bad boxer is the tendency to leak red fluid (tomato juice/blood) when being beaten in a fight.


    Examples

    * Jordan Keepers [6]
    * Jim Wisniewski [7]
    * Peter McNeeley [8]


    Hah, that is brutal.

    From wikipedia btw, and no mention of the origin that I saw.



  4. Horay free MMA.
    Last edited by Kidnemo; 10 Nov 2007 at 07:07 PM.

  5. i'm going out on a limb and saying the first time he loses he quits. *edit* (Brock)
    is Diaz the one that was suspended by the UFC?

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    Yes. And his brother Nate won TUF 5.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Kidnemo View Post

    One characteristic which may account for the use of the "tomato can" metaphor for a bad boxer is the tendency to leak red fluid (tomato juice/blood) when being beaten in a fight.
    too funny.

    thanks meach. i couldn't remember if it was him or not.

  8. i don't think Nick was ever suspended from the UFC...

    he fought there for awhile, his contract was terminated, came back to the UFC, left for Pride, beat Gomi in a non-title fight, then failed his drug test.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by sedition View Post
    i don't think Nick was ever suspended from the UFC...

    he fought there for awhile, his contract was terminated, came back to the UFC, left for Pride, beat Gomi in a non-title fight, then failed his drug test.
    yeah i'm not sure he's suspended from the UFC or the Nevada State Athletic Comission now that you mention it. i know somebody was.

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    Anybody watch the IFL Grand Prix semis last night? That Horodecki kid is really impressive.
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