Soul Calibur 4

**StriderKyo** · 03 Jun 2007, 04:28 AM

I think Soul Calibur's freaking great. I had no idea there was this backlash against it, although I spent almost no time with 3 and never owned my own copy. But I'm all over this when it hits.

Originally Posted by JBNagis

Yeah but Virtua Fighter sucks. So it doesn't count.

JBNagis

You get 1 million wrong points, VF is the best fighting game series going these days. There's absolutely nothing else that matches its complexity or elegance of design. When it comes to 3D fighters, Soul Calibur's my second favourite though. I love the fluid and intuitive controls.

Originally Posted by onelocust

I find it stupid that there is a Soul Calibur 2,3,4, etc., when Soul Calibur is in fact the second in the series.

Does it bother you that there's a Super Mario Bros. 2 as well?

**JBNagis** · 03 Jun 2007, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by StriderKyo

I think Soul Calibur's freaking great. I had no idea there was this backlash against it, although I spent almost no time with 3 and never owned my own copy. But I'm all over this when it hit.

Me too. I had mad fun with SC3. Having a chick with Asteroths animations and move set is just too fun.

You get 1 million wrong points, VF is the best fighting game series going these days. There's absolutely nothing else that matches its complexity or elegance of design. When it comes to 3D fighters, Soul Calibur's my second favourite though. I love the fluid and intuitive controls.

I corrected myself on that one. Its not that VF sucks. I just find it extremely boring. I dont have any fun playing VF. Especially compared to SC and Tekken. Fun for me trumps Elegance as far as fighting games is concerned.

JBNagis

**kedawa** · 03 Jun 2007, 05:21 AM

I don't find VF any more boring than any other 3D fighter, but the character design and presentation are a little flat compared to the fireworks show that most fighting games have evolved into.

I loved SoulBlade and played it to death, and although I never put as much time into it, I really liked Soul Calibur as well. SC2 is good, but nothing special, and SC3 just seems like the same old game, but dumbed down, and with a shitload of characters and extra modes thrown in to compensate.
As far as SC4 goes, I think Namco needs to revisit some of the things from SoulBlade that got dropped for SC1. Things like the critical edge and disarming opponents could make the series fresh again, if they're handled properly. It doesn't need dozens of characters, though, just a small cast of solid characters.

**voltz** · 03 Jun 2007, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by JBNagis

I corrected myself on that one. Its not that VF sucks. I just find it extremely boring. I dont have any fun playing VF. Especially compared to SC and Tekken. Fun for me trumps Elegance as far as fighting games is concerned.

We heard you the first time.

Originally Posted by kedawa

I don't find VF any more boring than any other 3D fighter, but the character design and presentation are a little flat compared to the fireworks show that most fighting games have evolved into.

Yeah I always felt that way when I noticed how standard everyone was to their own fighting art. Kinda in the "Token black guy" sort of thing, but at least I was able to put wings on Sarah and make her look something demonic.

As far as SC4 goes, I think Namco needs to revisit some of the things from SoulBlade that got dropped for SC1. Things like the critical edge and disarming opponents could make the series fresh again, if they're handled properly. It doesn't need dozens of characters, though, just a small cast of solid characters.

True. I recall Li Long making a comeback and he was using some of his old movesets, plus the critical edge which I thought worked out great till he was revamped for the arcade release and lost all that. I think most changes and decisions come under more of a political bias then knowing what works, so I'm not gonna bother holding my breath on the next game.

**Drewbacca** · 03 Jun 2007, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dyne

the only weapons based fighter i care about anymore is not this series.

samurai showdown

Bushido Blade IMO.

I like Soul Calibur but I played the shit out of 2 so much that I'm not interested in it. I remember reading here when they released 3 and I said that it was far too soon to be shoving another sequel out the door. Watering down your series with sequels too close together creates a lot of marketplace apathy. SC3 may have been the best in the series, but because I had already played 2 to death I wasn't that keen on going back in to that specific world. I needed a break.

The next gen hardware might provide some interesting new options to entice me to check it out, but probably not. This is, afterall, just a fighting game.

**Yoshi** · 03 Jun 2007, 12:10 PM

lol @ Bushido Blade

That game would have gotten zero attention is Square wasn't on the case.

**Arcavian** · 03 Jun 2007, 12:15 PM

Never knew so many people didn't like Soul Calibur

Its still one of my favorite fighting games

**Jetman** · 03 Jun 2007, 12:21 PM

Im surprised that Namco may be putting this one out close to a Tekken 6 release. Usually it seems like there is a bit of a buffer period (about a year or so?) between the release of the next in Calibur series following a previous Tekken. This kinda makes me think the next one is going to be rushed.