Harry Potter: The End

[Shin Johnpv]

The problem is that I don't think Rowling intended that sort of effect in regards to Snape. I think she wanted us to forgive him and move on. Rather than forgive him, I can actually understand why he did the things he did and I don't really begrudge him any of it. Quite frankly, I'm glad James Potter is dead and if I were Harry I'd be ashamed to have him as a father. I'd also question my feelings about Sirius Black. The two of them were complete dicks.

Snivellus, indeed. Fuck you, Potter. He cared more about your kid than you did.

Ohhh please that's such bullshit. To damn two people for the things they did as teenagers, well fuck you'd have to damn 99% if America then of that was the case. Taking pitty on Snape and saying you don't begrudge the things he did in this sense, is kind of like saying "Well you can't blame the KKK member for his actions he had a rough childhood. I don't begrudge him for killing a few people.". You end with saying that Snape cares more for Harry than James did, ohh please Snape didn't do anything he did out of love for Harry, it was solely done out of his love for Lilly. He could have cared less if Voldemort killed James and the 1 year old Harry as long as Lilly was allowed to live. That's disgustingly selfish.

He did what he did and helped Dumbledor over the years because of his love of Lilly and nothing else. Not for nothing but Snape was just as much of an asshole as a kid and teenager as Sirius and James were, calling people Mudbloods, dropping branches on Lilly's muggle sister. You paint him to be some grand suffering innocent and that's just bullshit. None of them were, Sirius, James or Snape. I mean come on up even to the moment of his death Snape was still obsessed with Lily, wanting to look in Harry's eyes because they were exactly like his mother's.

[red_war_machine]

The most telling part of the whole Snape story for me was just Dumbledore saying "You know, sometimes I think we Sort too soon..."

Snape obviously wasn't a nice guy at school and remained not a very nice guy in adulthood. It's also true that everything he did he did for Lily (which, IMO, is completely understandable). But I think the message is that it was getting put in Slytherin which really fucked him up. Had he been in Gryffindor then everything would have been different - he could have been the fifth marauder, or even eventually been with Lily.

Throughout the books almost nobody is a close friend with anyone who isn't in their House. If you were in Slytherin anywhere from Voldemort's schooldays right through to his downfall then I wouldn't have thought that you'd have much of a choice. That's what happens to Snape - why on earth, after all, would you call someone you loved 'mudblood'? Because he's surrounded by this all day, every day. He's got no other common room to go to, and no other friends to talk to. The only people he sees 100% of the time are Voldemort's cronies in slytherin, and that's gonna skew you pretty badly.

Snape should've been in Gryffindor, Pettigrew should've been in Slytherin.

[The Gas]

I really hope there's some magical requirement built into Hogwarts itself that requires keeping Slytherin House around, because otherwise there's just no excuse for it. It's a cancer on the wizard community that exists JUST to make sure the kids come in on the wrong path stay on it, and it might even be worth shutting Hogwarts down and starting a new school to be rid of it.

...I probably should stop trying to apply logic to a children's fantasy story now.

[Mzo]

The most telling part of the whole Snape story for me was just Dumbledore saying "You know, sometimes I think we Sort too soon..."

Snape obviously wasn't a nice guy at school and remained not a very nice guy in adulthood. It's also true that everything he did he did for Lily (which, IMO, is completely understandable). But I think the message is that it was getting put in Slytherin which really fucked him up. Had he been in Gryffindor then everything would have been different - he could have been the fifth marauder, or even eventually been with Lily.

Throughout the books almost nobody is a close friend with anyone who isn't in their House. If you were in Slytherin anywhere from Voldemort's schooldays right through to his downfall then I wouldn't have thought that you'd have much of a choice. That's what happens to Snape - why on earth, after all, would you call someone you loved 'mudblood'? Because he's surrounded by this all day, every day. He's got no other common room to go to, and no other friends to talk to. The only people he sees 100% of the time are Voldemort's cronies in slytherin, and that's gonna skew you pretty badly.

Snape should've been in Gryffindor, Pettigrew should've been in Slytherin.

Did you miss the part where Snape was prejudiced against non-magic families except for Lily because he was crazy-obsessed with her? Or when he dropped that branch on Lily's sister? He wasn't the most pleasant guy around. He was always kind of a greasy asshole.

[red_war_machine]

Did you miss the part where Snape was prejudiced against non-magic families except for Lily because he was crazy-obsessed with her? Or when he dropped that branch on Lily's sister? He wasn't the most pleasant guy around. He was always kind of a greasy asshole.

When he dropped the branch on Lily's sister that was a result of anger. He didn't have a wand at that point, did he? So he had little control over his actions, just as Harry when he found himself on the roof in the very first book.

As for hating non-magic families apart from Lily: Like I said, I think the message there is that this was a direct result of his being in Slytherin. If he truly felt like that then he would have been the same against Lily. Dumbledore obviously knew that he'd changed - when did you ever see a Gryffindor who hated non-magic families? Yet Dumbledore still obliquely hinted that Snape should have been in Gryffindor.

[Calliander]

When he dropped the branch on Lily's sister that was a result of anger. He didn't have a wand at that point, did he? So he had little control over his actions, just as Harry when he found himself on the roof in the very first book.

As for hating non-magic families apart from Lily: Like I said, I think the message there is that this was a direct result of his being in Slytherin. If he truly felt like that then he would have been the same against Lily. Dumbledore obviously knew that he'd changed - when did you ever see a Gryffindor who hated non-magic families? Yet Dumbledore still obliquely hinted that Snape should have been in Gryffindor.

If Snape had wanted to be in Gryffindor, he would have been, since Harry was in the same predicament.

He was a little shit when he was young, except for his affection towards Lily. He disliked mudbloods because he WAS one and couldn't stand his muggle father, always wishing that he could have been a pureblood. That still doesn't excuse the way he was treated once he got to Hogwarts, though. Can't they switch your house? Do they need to take the Sorting Hat's word on everything?

And John was right, I quite overreacted to Snape's demise. Of all the stuff in the book you had to slog through, though, his story was the clearest and most heartfelt, so I was probably just catching hold of the honesty there. It still sucks what happened to him, but all of them were little shits, not just Potter.

Of course, I can't figure out what made Potter become this great person whom Lily loved with all of her heart. He was a dumb jock and... ah, crap, just answered my own question. I've been out of high school so long I forgot about that. Maybe that's why I liked Snape so much.

[The Gas]

According to Rowling...

Kingsley is the new Minster of Magic. He not only lets Harry be an Auror... he puts him in charge of the Auror Department.

Ginny plays Quidditch professionally, then retires to raise the kids (and write about Quidditch for the Prophet).

Ron takes Fred's place at George's side running the joke shop.

Hermione works for a time in the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures, crusading for expanded rights for house elves and other intelligent beings subjugated by wizardkind, until joining the magical law enforcement squad.

Luna becomes a famous wizarding naturalist who eventually marries the grandson of Newt Scamander, author of "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them."

Were a Muggle song played at Dumbledore's funeral, it would be "My Way."

[Korly]

Well shit, I finished it.

Now what? My 360 is gone, so I can't play the game. I've seen all the movies. I'm not gonna read the encyclopedias.

I hope we get a "Hogwarts" TV show when the movies are done. I also would love to see a comic based in the HP Universe.

And best part of book seven? "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU BITCH!"

I liked Book 5 the best and my favorite movie so far was part 3. I hope Cuaron comes back to direct part 7.

[Cowutopia]

"NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU BITCH!"

[Cowdisease]

J.K.Rowling revealed that Dumbledore is gay. Discuss.