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  1. Grandmother Accused of Using Granddaughter As Lookout During Drug Deal

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    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A 39-year-old grandmother accused of selling heroin on the streets of a Los Angeles suburb with her 11-year-old granddaughter as a lookout has been arrested on drug and child endangerment charges, police said on Tuesday.
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    Undercover officers watched for two weeks as Martha Gutierrez Novas sold heroin at a bus stop in Long Beach, south of Los Angeles, clutching a brown and white Chihuahua and often with her granddaughter at her side, a police spokesman said.

    "The granddaughter acted as a lookout, standing at the corner of the building looking, I assume, for police officers," said Sgt. Paul LeBaron, a Long Beach spokesman. "It's horrible. Absolutely horrible. I've never seen anything this blatant. She just didn't even care."

    Novas was found with a bag of heroin and cocaine when she was taken into custody on Monday, LeBaron said, and a search of her home turned up two ounces of heroin and a large amount of cash.

    He said Novas, who faces charges of drug sales and possession as well as child endangerment and was being held on $100,000 bail, refused to tell police who was supplying her with the drugs.

    LeBaron said that Novas' immigration status was under investigation and that Child and Family Services officials were also probing the matter.

    He said Novas also sometimes sold drugs with her 4-year-old granddaughter present. Neither child was charged.

    "This lady was pretty much going to the same spot all day long during the daylight hours selling to a large clientele," LeBaron said. "Any time during the day you could go out there and find her."

    It was not clear how much jail time Novas could face, if convicted.

    A 39 year old grand mother with an 11 year old grand daughter? When you're a grandmother at 28, chances are that your life is already fucked.
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  2. Mexicans.... aye caramba.

    That's f-ing impressive. My oldest brother is 46 and the next youngest is 37. A 39 year-old grandmother?!!! WTF.

    and no, I'm not paying attention to the fact that she used her granddaughter to sell drugs. Gotta help out the familia somehow

    EDIT: I'm not the least bit surprised that her immigration status in in question.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Type Ryan View Post
    Mexicans.... aye caramba. I'm not the least bit surprised that her immigration status in in question.
    you just think about that mister


  4. Quote Originally Posted by Gohron View Post
    A 39 year old grand mother with an 11 year old grand daughter? When you're a grandmother at 28, chances are that your life is already fucked.
    Seriously, I'm doing the math here. She must have had a kid at 14, and that kid then had a kid at 14.

    In another 3 years, she can be a great grandmother.
    You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.

  5. #5
    She's probably from MS13. Big time mexican gang out here. And if she is from MS13 they will probably investigate murder too. If you wanna be in you gotta kill someone. Or bang a bunch of the guys. She probably did both.
    That kind of shit happens more than anyone really wants to admit. They just happen to find out about this one.

    Ive seen girls that looked around 8 or 9 years old,in a skirt on the corner at 2am with her big sister. Just out kickin it. L.A. is a fucked up place. Seriously.


    JBNagis

  6. MS13 is some serious shit, they make the crips look like pussies.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by JBNagis View Post
    She's probably from MS13. Big time Mexican gang out here. And if she is from MS13 they will probably investigate murder too. If you wanna be in you gotta kill someone. Or bang a bunch of the guys. She probably did both.
    That kind of shit happens more than anyone really wants to admit. They just happen to find out about this one.

    Ive seen girls that looked around 8 or 9 years old,in a skirt on the corner at 2am with her big sister. Just out kickin it. L.A. is a fucked up place. Seriously.


    JBNagis
    I don't think a petty drug deal like this shows any relevance to a possible connection to the petty and barbaric MS13. Although they are very savage and ruthless, they are also extremely un-organized(in America anyways which is a good thing for us).
    Last edited by nocturne; 01 Aug 2007 at 12:58 AM.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by nocturne View Post
    I don't think a petty drug deal like this shows any relevance to a possible connection to the petty and barbaric MS13. Although they are very savage and ruthless, they are also extremely un-organized(which is a good thing for the world).
    You fail, again

    Quote Originally Posted by wikipedia
    MS-13, Mara, MS, and are composed mostly of Salvadorans, Hondurans and other Central Americans. The MS-13 gangs have cliques, or factions, located throughout the United States and Latin America. Membership is believed to total over 100,000 worldwide

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by nocturne View Post
    I don't think a petty drug deal like this shows any relevance to a possible connection to the petty and barbaric MS13. Although they are very savage and ruthless, they are also extremely un-organized(in America anyways which is a good thing for us).
    Probably her supplier. which is why she didn't say anything bout it.
    And thank god they're not that organized. Can you imagine the shit storm they would kick up if they were.


    JBNagis

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Biff-chan View Post
    You fail, again

    You fail to comprehend simple rhetoric. Again.
    I said Organized. They may have the numbers but the organization is not there to back it up.
    And you know how i know this? Because organized gangs like the Cosa Nostra and the Black Hand don't try and draw unneeded attention to themselves, the MS13 thrive on making attention to generate fear.

    Theres many, many different gangs in L.A.- alot of Latino orgin.
    Last edited by nocturne; 01 Aug 2007 at 01:03 AM.

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