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  1. Sorry, I forgot that you're such a big earner that you don't need to know how English operates. Try to keep those of us who don't run hedge funds in the loop.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    burgundy is the only conceivable choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drewbacca View Post
    I have an Alcatraz-style all-star butthole.

  2. Quote Originally Posted by burgundy View Post
    Sorry, I forgot that you're such a big earner that you don't need to know how English operates. Try to keep those of us who don't run hedge funds in the loop.
    Why the hate Burg, do I hate on you? Do I send you extra-small boxers for christmas? Or a picture of Mini-me so you can compare growth charts? Don't hate here sir. You brought this on yourself, you want to compare flaws and I'm game tonight "big" boy.

    It's my point that matters, not the delivery.
    Last edited by Othello Harrington; 11 Dec 2007 at 09:36 PM.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by burgundy View Post
    Omar's dumb, but he's no Spo. He can get Johan without giving up Reyes, anyway.
    You wish I was the GM of the Mets. You'd have a lineup with Wright-Beltran-ARod in the middle of it, a rotation of Santana-Haren-Pedro-Maine-El Duque, and a bullpen with Scot Shields, Joe Nathan, and Billy Wagner ending games in the 6th inning. The Twins aren't giving away Santana for shitty Mets prospects, they want guys they know will perform on opening day 2008. Reyes will never have more value than he does right now and he's a prima donna that gave away at-bats when the Mets needed him most. Trading him for 6 years of Johan Santana (plus Joe Nathan, who the Twins would include to get Reyes and a few prospects) is a no-fucking-brainer. Santana will put up a 2.00 ERA in the NL and win 25 games for a Mets team that desperately needs an ace. Billy Beane is in love with Lastings Milledge; Omar could have had Haren for Milledge and a couple prospects. Delgado to the Angels for Scot Shields, move Wright to first base, sign a defensive shortstop and the Mets are one of the best teams in baseball again.
    Last edited by SpoDaddy; 11 Dec 2007 at 10:14 PM.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
    Why the hate Burg, do I hate on you? Do I send you extra-small boxers for christmas? Or a picture of Mini-me so you can compare growth charts? Don't hate here sir. You brought this on yourself, you want to compare flaws and I'm game tonight "big" boy.

    It's my point that matters, not the delivery.
    I led with "Not trying to be a dick" because I wasn't trying to be a dick and undermine your point with nonsense. I genuinely found the apostrophes to be irritating, mostly because I know you're not a moron who doesn't understand the English language.

    A 24yo shortstop who hits leadoff, steals tons of bases, scores tons of runs, plays 160 out of 162 games a season, and is cost controlled through 2011 is worth a lot more than a guy who will pitch once every five days for a season and then require a massive payday. Reyes had a terrible September. If he didn't, no one even suggests this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    burgundy is the only conceivable choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drewbacca View Post
    I have an Alcatraz-style all-star butthole.

  5. That's similiar the the Talladega nights "with all do respect" bit, I don't buy it.

    Look around Burg, SS's grow are everywhere in every system, Pitchers are not. And not because i am a pitcher do I say the following:

    they don't grow on tree's.


    Make the trade, enjoy the 18+ wins.
    Last edited by Othello Harrington; 11 Dec 2007 at 11:29 PM.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by SpoDaddy View Post
    The Twins aren't giving away Santana for shitty Mets prospects
    http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/11/b...-mets-decline/
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    burgundy is the only conceivable choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drewbacca View Post
    I have an Alcatraz-style all-star butthole.

  7. Cubs and Japanese free agent Kosuke Fukudome agree on a 4 year/$50 mil contract.

  8. I'm very iffy on him.

  9. That's a big commitment for a corner outfielder who never played a game in the bigs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    burgundy is the only conceivable choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drewbacca View Post
    I have an Alcatraz-style all-star butthole.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by raystorm View Post
    Cubs and Japanese free agent Kosuke Fukudome agree on a 4 year/$50 mil contract.
    They're overpaying him, but apparently not by that large a margin (though I don't see how he gets $12m+/year aside from having to seal the deal). I'm not crazy about the signing, but I've never seen the guy play.

    Before I post my preview of the free agent outfielders, I needed to take some time to improve my Japanese translation process. Much thanks to this site Japan Baseball Daily, which has more data than I could have possibly asked for. Kosuke Fukudome has indeed been the best hitter in Japan over the last four seasons.

    After translating his stats and feeding it into the CHONE system, I get a projection of 283/373/465. This agrees with just about every scouting report I've read on him, he's a very good hitter with gap power and patience, but his homerun power would only be good for 15-20 in our major leagues.

    As a defender he's described as capable of playing center, but best suited for right, and with a strong enough arm for the position. My defensive projection for him, which is based entirely on his projected speed score, is +1 as a corner and -8 as a center fielder.

    CHONE only projects 357 at bats and a little over 400 plate appearances for him, as he must have had some sort of injury last year. I don't take playing time projections as seriously as the rate stats projections, I simply project them to play about as often as they have in the past. I don't know enough about Fukudome to say he's an injury prone player, so here's his stat line per 600 plate appearances:

    112 strikeouts, 69 walks, 38 doubles, 4 triples, 16 homers, and the 283/373/465 rate stats. He's probably most comparable to these players, value wise: Bobby Abreu, JD Drew, Milton Bradley.

    At 16 runs per 600 PA above average hitting, +1 for defense, -5 for position, and +17 to compare with replacement level, he's a +2.9 win player. Worth about 45 million over 4 years.

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