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The world outside of the US gets the same news about these shootings. If the media was the cause of this, it wouldn't be primarily an American issue.Originally Posted by Vasteel
The world outside of the US gets the same news about these shootings. If the media was the cause of this, it wouldn't be primarily an American issue.
Norway, Finland, Slovakia and Israel all have more mass shootings per capita than the US, and Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany aren't that far behind.
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Acorrding to an LA Times article:
The United States is, by a long shot, the global leader in mass shootings, claiming just 5% of the global population but an outsized share -- 31% -- of the world's mass shooters since 1966, a new study finds.
The Philippines, Russia, Yemen and France -- all countries that can claim a substantial share of the 291 documented mass shootings between 1966 and 2012 -- collectively didn't even come close to the United States...
Perhaps no single factor sets the United States apart as sharply as does gun ownership, wrote [University of Alabama criminologist Adam] Lankford. Of 178 countries included in Lankford's analysis, the United States ranked first in per-capita gun ownership. A 2007 survey found 270 million firearms in U.S. civilian households -- an ownership rate of 88.8 firearms per 100 people. Yemen followed, with 54.8 firearms per 100 people.
Across the world, countries' rates of homicides and suicides bore no clear relation to their likelihood of mass shootings in Lankford's analysis. In several countries with sky-high murder rates -- Mexico, Venezuela and Nigeria for instance -- mass shootings were extremely rare...
But the association between national firearm ownership rates and number of mass shooters per country showed clear statistical significance, he found. Behind the United States' top spot, Finland and Switzerland rank third and fourth, respectively, in per-capita gun ownership. While both countries enjoy vaunted reputations as safe places to live, both (along with No. 2 Yemen and No. 5 Serbia) ranked in the top 15 countries internationally for mass shooters per capita.
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Progressives have got just as bad as Conservatives with climate change on their ignorance confusing race for culture.
I don't know enough about this specific situation, but stop perpetuating ignorant memes, Lib-trump.
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I don't think this incident can be explained by just workplace violence. The guy went home, grabbed his wife, dropped off their kid at his mom's, put on some gear, and then they went and shot up the place together. If you go home and tel your wife, "brb gonna kill a bunch of people at my office party" would she lend a hand?
This is WEIRD. I don't think there is any similar incident. Dudes who went postal just grabbed a gun and did it. We don't know the full story, period.
This is highly disingenuous, as Norway had one mass shooting that just happened to be the worst one. Heck with those small countries you can have one shooting that kills 10 people and it will be more than the 450+ deaths in a year in a country of 300M. It does not change the fact this shit happens regularly these days. There's no similar situation in Germany, give me a break.
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The solution is the obvious, but no one wants to do anything because of this idea of American Exceptionalism and being a Beacon on the Hill. Having a serious debate about this would wreck the shit out of this founding nation narrative, and no one wants to do that.
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Exactly. But some on the right are predictably jumping to the conclusion of "terrorism" because of a very obvious reason. If this guy were white and named Dylan, then the same people would be frantically making "mentally ill," "sick individual," "whacked-out kid," apologies for him just like they did for the Planned Parenthood guy last week.
Fiorina herself criticized Obama for talking about gun control before anyone knows anything about the shooters, then, one sentence later, said, "Everything about this points to terrorism."
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So, quick history lesson: According to the book Arms by A.J. Somerset, the current gun-crazed culture was not always embedded in America's social fabric. The Americans, lacking a a decent army back in the day, were pretty terrible shots. They lost all the good international shooting competitions. Shooting experts were brought in from Germany, the UK and Canada (lol) to help 'em out, and the NRA was founded to help study the science of good shootin'. Over time this morphed into an organization bent on pushing the idea of guns for all on the general public.
From what I understand, the NRA only cares about selling bullets. They just take the modern approach of feigning oppression to do so.
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