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  1. Haven't science & statistics pretty easily determined that physical punishment is a terrible form of discipline? I thought the results were in on this.

    Obviously it can work out fine but when it comes to behavioral development, parents spend way too much effort justifying things to themselves when they don't have a clue how a kids brain works.

  2. Quote Originally Posted by FirstBlood View Post
    Haven't science & statistics pretty easily determined that physical punishment is a terrible form of discipline? I thought the results were in on this.

    Obviously it can work out fine but when it comes to behavioral development, parents spend way too much effort justifying things to themselves when they don't have a clue how a kids brain works.
    Tons. it doesn't work the way many want it to. There are anecdotal "My daddy hit me and I turned out fine!" as well as "My dad never laid a hand on me and I still became a mass murderer" but statistically it's not the smartest thing you can do as a parent. It leads to the idea that physicality is a problem solving method - and many domestic abusers were physically punished as children and continue the cycle. One of the issues is that every person is going to have an idea of what proper physical punishment looks like, and that can be anything from a light warning swat on the bum to beating your kid with a belt or worse. Obviously, the law draws a line somewhere in there, but the law can't be everywhere 24-7 to make sure every parent is exerting the acceptable amount of force.
    Quote Originally Posted by dechecho View Post
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  3. I’d have more faith in science and statistics if the results weren’t always bent to fit whatever narrative the person interpreting them wanted fo tell.

  4. The punishments that work are the ones that are actually enforced. They don't need to be physical.
    Either way, empty threats and giving them what they want anyway is the worst possible strategy.

    I don't even consider spanking to be corporal punishment. It hurts less than the rasslin moves I'd willingly subject myself to as a kid. The pain of it was never something I was afraid of. It was only ever a deterrent to me in the sense that I didn't want the embarrassment of being spanked in front of others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Satsuki View Post
    It leads to the idea that physicality is a problem solving method - and many domestic abusers were physically punished as children and continue the cycle.
    You're conflating discipline and abuse.

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    Have any studies been done on girls yet who were spanked and how filthy they are in the sack later in life?

  6. I have some anecdotal evidence.

  7. #12047
    Your mom has some anecdotal evidence.

  8. Physical punishment makes sense for little kids who aren’t going to reason with you and need an immediate discipline for a bad behavior. They should quickly grow out of that, though.
    I don’t have kids.
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  9. I got smacked 4-5 times growing up, and I deserved every one.
    Boo, Hiss.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by kedawa View Post
    You're conflating discipline and abuse.
    http://www.newsweek.com/corporal-pun...chology-736170
    https://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-...ive-Later.aspx
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.56c21349ad7e
    http://cwrp.ca/infosheets/physical-a...ishment-canada
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1....1015/abstract

    (ignore the articles and go straight to the studies. they aren't from for-profit biased companies, they are coming from health journals, pediatric and psychiatric journals.)

    Seriously guys, we've had this argument on this topic and thread way more than once at this point. Again, the problem isn't a little smack on the bum. The problem is that there isn't a magic line between "discipline" and "abuse." A lot of parents take it too far, and children are not able to distinguish the difference. If you would hit a family member in order to discipline them, I don't know what to tell you. You're taking a gamble with how that person may internalize the behavior in the future.
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