Ah fuck... stupid then/than. Those bastards are always beating me.
You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.
I'm Tommy Tallarico
If you know what you're talking about, then reread what I said and realize that I wasn't arguing definitions with you, I was arguing against agnosticism in general and the ridiculous notion that there's an equal likelihood that there's a god versus no god.Originally Posted by bbobb
"I can only say that there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of slavery." - Tommy Tallarico
Aight, I'll go with you on this then. Why is there not an equal likelihood? Can you show me any proof one way or another? Even some proof that makes one lean towards one or the other end of the spectrum? Sure, I do think the Christian concept of a deity is silly, but what exactly is there to say that there isn't some form of deity/deities? And vice versa what is there to say there is? And most importantly why does it really matter either way?
To be religious or atheist both require some form of faith that your beliefs are right. I lack said faith.
You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.
Ass
If you are you're fucked, Im not.If you're not, Im still not fucked (or maybe we all are if Xenu decides to harvest our souls)
Last edited by Jetman; 21 Jan 2008 at 11:59 PM.
Darksider
It matters to the religious because they rather spend the after life in heaven and not hell.
Edit: Jetman beat me to it.
I'm Tommy Tallarico
If you don't think being an enlightened, rational individual matters, then there's really nothing I can say to convince you.
Do I have to prove to you that Santa Claus doesn't exist? Or the Easter Bunny? Are you an agnostic Bunniest because I can't? I sure as fuck hope that you're smarter than that. It's not a leap of faith for me to disbelieve a Christian god any more than it is to disbelieve flying dogs that comes out at night and shit turkey sandwiches. Just because someone says something is true doesn't make it grounds for a rational argument or give it weight equal to the convex.
So faith is about hedging your bets? Why not just read the Koran and face Mecca to pray a few times a day while you're at it?
"I can only say that there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of slavery." - Tommy Tallarico
I agree it's not a leap of faith to disbelieve a Christian god. The Christian belief set is silly.
But it is a leap of faith to disbelieve in the possibility of some form of a higher power.
You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.
I'm Tommy Tallarico
Explain to me how it's more of a leap of faith than my sandwich shitting dog.
"I can only say that there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of slavery." - Tommy Tallarico
master of the dark hado
Yoshi and B-ri have started their own religion.
Because you're saying that there's absolutely no possibility that this incredibly well organized universe with its meticulous laws of existence and its intricate construction has any change of being designed by something, some form of something beyond our understanding. Yep, it could easily be random chance, but it's hard to say there's absolutely no possibility of something else being behind it as well. It really comes down to thinking about the limits of human understanding. To think that there couldn't be something above and beyond our understanding is a hell of a lot of hubris.
You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.
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