They're also playing against some of the worst fucking teams in the league, and their next three games aren't any harder.
Really? You mean like Buffalo(5,5), that hasn't lost (except to the Rangers) in their past 12 games? Like Montreal(5,5)? The Devils(3)? San Jose(3)? Goals are in parenthesis. All of them have better records than the Rangers.
Next 3? Carolina has lost one of their last 7 games. The Islanders have lost one of their last 8. Only the Flyers are doing poorly.
Please, research what you're talking about. The team that should've won against you today hasn't been playing well, at all, for example.
Don't even dare tell me that I don't research my shit. The Islanders, Sabres and Hurricanes are all terrible goddamn teams with weak-ass defenses.
Yes, Buffalo is a terrible team. Carolina is a terrible team. Montreal should have kicked your ass, and indeed did beat you.
Let's break down Carolina's schedule over the L-8. Hmm, they lost to the Devils twice, a decent team. They've beaten Boston, once, and lost to them the next time in overtime. They also beat Washington, a Crosby-less Pittsburgh which continues to insanely overperform, Florida, and abysmal Thrashers team, and oh, Washington again. And if you look, they've lost 3 of their last 8, one in overtime.
Hardly a difficult schedule.
The Islanders are horrible. You're kidding yourself if you think this streak is indicative of any actual skill on that team. The Rangers OUGHT to win that one, and don't tell me you think otherwise. Especially since half their goddamn defense is still injured. It's a miracle what Nolan has gotten them to do over this recent stretch.
San Jose is a Western Conference team, and despite their points, they are inferior. The Atlantic is the toughest division in the entire NHL, and pretty much every team in it except for the abysmal Flyers beat San Jose. Oh, and now Pittsburgh, though Pitt managed a point.
If you think Carolina is going to be a tough game you must not think much about your team.
Let's break this down further. The most impressive victory the Sabres have had in their last 12 is the 5-1 breakout against Ottawa. Other than that, they've managed to beat the bottom teams in the East, Tampa and Toronto, the ailing Panthers, and the barely-good-enough-to-be-in-playoff-contention Bruins. They managed an overtime win against the Devils too, in a shootout, for the first time this year. They beat the Stars, but the Stars aren't very good this year either. They also managed to lose to PHOENIX and TORONTO.
The Sabres are not a good team.
The Islanders really have been impressive, but there's no way they can keep this up. However if you look at THEIR streak, it's also been against the dregs of the east: Tampa, Washington, Atlanta, Toronoto, and post-implosion Philly. San Jose is the most impressive win.
So basically you're telling me you're afraid of garbage teams, and you know your team sucks.
Last edited by Cowutopia; 25 Feb 2008 at 02:17 AM.
The Devils should only drop 1 of their next 5, but the way they played against Washington today, I worry.
and I maintain that Montreal is horrifying.
The Islanders have beaten you 5 out of 6, the Sabres are undefeated in their last 12 (except for the Blueshirts) and Carolina is hot. "Crosby-less" Pittsburgh has lost 2 of their 10 and are competing with your team quite handily without their best player.Originally Posted by Cowutopia
Montreal is also competing with you for the conference lead and Buffalo, at 8 games above .500 and streaking is anything but a "terrible" team.
You mean the same Washington team that skated circles around your team today and boasts the leagues best player? That Washington?
Really, so this skill-less team has dominated the Devils to the tune of winning 5 out of six, being 7 games above .500, have a winning record against the Rangers because they have no skill? Remarkable. Not to mention that they are besieged by injuries. I guess the Devils must REALLY suck then because they've lost 11 out of 12 to the Rangers and Islanders combined. It's because the Islanders and Rangers suck. I see. That's logical.
Right, and this team finished 25 games above .500 last year (like the Devils) and are currently 5 points behind the Ducks with 4 games in hand. This is an inferior team that's 12 games above .500. Interesting. What does it take to qualify you as something other than an "inferior" team? The Sharks accomplished the same exact thing as both the Devils and the Rangers did last year, btw, losing in 6 in the second round.
The Atlantic division is the toughest in the sport, I'll agree, so let's take a look at another stat:
The Devils vs. the Atlantic are 10-10-3
The Rangers vs. the Atlantic are 13-6-0
The Islanders vs. the Atlantic are 11-8
So, you're arguing that the Rangers are afraid of garbage teams, have the best record against the best division in the NHL (by your own admission), and have beaten your team every game this season. And the Islanders, who also have a better record against the "best division in the NHL", really are a patsy because they happen to be playing against the Rangers in the next few days.
That makes *a lot* of sense. Really. Thank you for your research. It's been really enlightening.
It really doesn't matter how the Islanders and Rags played against the Devils earlier in the season. This isn't about them.
This is about you and your fucking easy schedule. Have you forgotten what we're arguing about?
I'm glad you find it enlightening. The Devils have been atrocious in-Division, but luckily it seems they're winning enough of the games they should win so that it won't matter.
Also, I never said Montreal was an easy game or a bad team, I don't know why you put that up there in your post.
Remember, the Devils are also completely healthy, and they're on a bit of a run themselves, and two wins have been against Ottawa. Not Toronto.
And despite Washington skating circles around us, we still managed to win. Unlike the Rags giving up a 5 goal lead against Montreal and losing.
I can't fucking wait until the next Devils/Rangers game.
Last edited by Cowutopia; 25 Feb 2008 at 02:10 AM.
Your Carolina stats are wrong, btw, in their last 7:
Bruins W 3-2
Penguins W 4-2
FLA W 5-4
Devils L 5-1
Bruins OL 3-2
Atlanta W 5-3
Washington W 6-3
You can say what you want about Atlanta and Washington, but division games are *never* easy. They are 5-1-1 in their last seven - 11 points in 7 games.
I don't think they are a powerhouse by any stretch, but road games (as is evidenced by your trip to Washington today) are NEVER easy, particularly against teams that are playing well at home (Carolina is 17-11-3 at home). Washington was 14-13-3 at home before losing today thanks to Brodeur. I don't chalk up any game on the road in February and March as easy. No matter who the team is.
that's l7, but I went to the last 8. They lost 3 of 8, one loss coming in OT. My stats are correct. I didn't see why I should stop at 7 to make them look better.
Edit: The "Oh, Washington again" refers to the L-9 actually. Oops.
The southeast division is complete trash. None of them should be in the playoffs.
I can't tell you how disappointed I am in Washington.
Last edited by Cowutopia; 25 Feb 2008 at 02:18 AM.
It is when you're bantering about how easy the Isles are to beat. When you've lost 5 out of 6 to them you can't use that as an argument. Particularly when the only time your club can beat them is because they are undermanned.
No, I'm pointing out that they are playing hot teams with winning records which has little, if nothing, to do with an "fucking easy schedule".
Because they are one of the teams that the Rangers have scored 5 goals against, twice. Remember?
And Washington. And the Islanders (who YOU were deriding). And, oh look, the Hurricanes. Twice even. And impressive OT wins vs. the Thrashers and the very crappy Sabres. You mean it took overtime to beat them? Hm. Are they really that bad?
Bah, who cares. The Rangers have 6 points in their last 4 road games. That's what really matters.
I, personally, would find it far more embarrassing to have lost 11 out of 12 to the Rangers and Islanders then blowing a 5 goal lead on the road. But that's just me.
Well, the odds are in your favor. You have to win one sooner or later.
we lost to the sabres in OT.
Although 3 wins in OT against them came earlier in the season.
The Isles beat us 5 of 6. Hooray. It's trash, the Devils played like trash when it happened, the Isles fucking suck, and we finally put them down.
It's really fucking sick that Washington's dropped the last two games against Carolina. How disappointing.
Last edited by Cowutopia; 25 Feb 2008 at 02:33 AM.
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