What's Bugging You Today? Volume 3, Part 1

[Diff-chan]

Read two different articles today where religious people make horrible, uninformed arguments about science. No, there is no belief of laboratory work. There is no belief in theories. There is no belief. I guess it must be hard to understand coming from their point of view but in science, there is no faith. There is no fucking belief.

I don't know if belief is the right word. I don't believe in the theory of evolution because it is fact. Of course I believe a fact, but that's because it is a fact.

The religious right has done this little trick of basically saying, either you believe in Jesus or you believe in Darwin. "Darwinism" is a neat trick but it means nothing. Even our most science-accepting politicians fall for this trick - "who believes in Darwinism?" etc. It's a BS question.

The bigger issue is that people, even when shown that their beliefs are wrong, double down on them. The concept of an "open mind" just does not apply to most people.

[Razor Ramon]

You know who and for being an asshole. You know in your heart it's the right course of action.

It looks like Verizon is going to charge more for data. Prepare to pay more if you're a Verizon or AT&T customer. Bleh.

[Mzo]

Link the articles, please. I enjoy reading that kind of thing.

I think they both might have to do with Prometheus. I found the one I read this morning, it's from Wired. It was more an aside than the point of the article. I guess the movie is making everyone all philosophical about the origins of life on Earth.

All theories — scientific as well as religious — involve at least some faith in their until they’re proven — it’s just that some people believe in the lab and use it to test their hypotheses, while others believe in the Word.

[Fe 26]

I might have gotten trolled really hard today at lunch.

Went to a Brian's NY burger and meat place. Walking in, I already knew I was in for trouble. There was no clear line to take an order. And even after giving my order, the guy at the register didn't know what I had ordered because they have no system for that.

Which would be ok if they were fast. Or I waited in line until I got my food, with the order taped to the top, and then paid.

I got a cheeseburger plate btw. It was like 8.75.

I then sat and waited for like 30 minutes for some cheeseburgers. During this time, I think one of the young chefs ruined the life of this poor old woman on staff. She went outside with her purse and sat in the rain. Then the young chef went outside. You could hear him deflect and try to be smooth about what he did in the kitchen. Then the owner went out to talk to her.

Also during this time, the guy at the register (who didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground) was chatting up a herd of loud fat women.

Finally. We get our food and leave.

Get home. Fries are dumped all over the top of the burger in the sack.

And they some how managed to swap our orders half way through making them. So half of my contents were on my room mates burger and vice versa. And my room mate's burger had only half a meat paddy.

what...the...fuck

EDIT: When I say the fries were dumped, I mean they just through two or three cups full of fries on the top of the burger. There was no container. Just 3 cups of greasy fries, in a thin brown sack on top of a burger.

Is this normal somewhere?

[dave is ok]

I kind of hate when places name their shit after cities nowhere near them.

[Fe 26]

I don't know if belief is the right word. I don't believe in the theory of evolution because it is fact. Of course I believe a fact, but that's because it is a fact.

The religious right has done this little trick of basically saying, either you believe in Jesus or you believe in Darwin. "Darwinism" is a neat trick but it means nothing. Even our most science-accepting politicians fall for this trick - "who believes in Darwinism?" etc. It's a BS question.

The bigger issue is that people, even when shown that their beliefs are wrong, double down on them. The concept of an "open mind" just does not apply to most people.

Yeah. The nice thing about science is that it admits that it is wrong and changes. World religions haven't done that since, what, Rome? And even then, they didn't really admit to being wrong. The elders of the temple just invented new shit about their god. Or they brought in a new god from some place they conquered and changed the name of it.


IMO, one of the major reasons people keep religion is that science does not answer 1 fundamental question at the core of the human mind, "what is my (or other thing's) purpose."

Science doesn't care about purpose. Things just are in science. Nothing exist to do any other job than to exist. Friction for example, does not have a purpose. It does not have an intent. It just is. It is a thing with a set amount or properties that define it. We may or may not learn more about it. We might learn that what we call friction is just two things interacting with each other, and friction itself is not real. But whatever we learn about friction, it has nothing to do with purpose or intent. Science isn't concerned with that question 99% of the time.

[No One]

I kind of hate when places name their shit after cities nowhere near them.

I don't mind it so much when it's an eatery that specializes in a certain regional variant of something, like Chicago-style pizza. But yeah, what the hell is a "New York burger"? It's been a few years, but I don't remember the ingredients being all that different from anywhere else.

[dave is ok]

I just moved from right outside Boston to about 40 miles from Boston and everything up here in the sticks is called "Boston Pizza" or some shit with items on the menu named after parts of Boston. It's so pathetic.

[Brisco Bold]

It's a franchise, man.

[dave is ok]

No, it wasn't. I know theres a chain called that in Canada. This is unrelated. Just some shitty hole in the wall local joint.