lol.
As i've stated many times: the coming backlash is going to set women's issues back decades. It's not even entirely that men or women are liars, it's that the power structures favor men NO MATTER WHAT women say. By calling individuals out instead of institutions, we are actively ignoring the system that keeps corrupt men in power. We'll have a collective redemption moment in a few years (or months or whatever) where we will let Kevin Spacey, Louis CK, et al. back into the entertainment fray, because America LOVES redemption stories. And none of this will have meant a damn thing. The first man to publish a "what I did wrong" manifesto will be a hero, and the equilibrium of oppression will be restored.
A lot of people are getting shit canned, though. Feels good.
Not politicians, though. Despite victims making good on the Drewbaccian burden of proof.
I doubt they will require everyone. But I could see the charge an additional price with a waver form from a doctor.
Thats the problem. People who are embedded in institutions get off scot free, or with very little hassle. I mean, let's be real - how many laws have Kevin Spacey passed? How many missiles did Charlie Rose send overseas? How many bills has Louis CK vetoed? We're attacking and canning mostly inconsequential entertainment figures. Even when the majority of politician scandals have receipts, we just sorta shrug and let it go anyway. It's a faulty outrage.
Despite all my rage....
Except what is “the system”? I’ve heard and read “the system” interpretted in the legal spectrum be defined as due process. The entire foundation of western law.
The case I read about related to this was a sexual assault trial up here involving Jian Ghomeshi (a local radio host) and almost all of the claimants were found to have admittedly lied or misled the court with their testimony. There were a dozen or so too I believe. There were a lot of calls that the court shouldn’t have even questioned the women. It was too hard. But unfortunately you have to hear both sides. That’s how you get closer the truth.
Last edited by Drewbacca; 06 Dec 2017 at 10:26 PM.
I think it's great that creeps can no longer be creeps, but I don't like the public stoning going on.
Personally I think we should keep trying people in courtrooms for their crimes.
Literally the entire social system, and how it functions together with politics, power, economy, resources, etc etc etc. To ignore the fact that injustices regularly occur within our social system, even (and especially) in the case of laws and law enforcement is being ignorant on purpose at this point. Don't get me wrong, I value the law and our due process laws, but it does not have a fantastic track record when it comes to sexual assault and rape cases, or cases having to do with women, minorities, poor people, etc etc etc etc. Obviously this doesn't mean it should be abolished, but we need to be aware that there are injustices that occur and times where it does not truly serve as a means of punishment.
The anecdotal evidence that some women lied when it comes to sexual assault and rape is greatly overshadowed by the fact that we have thousands of rape kits that go untested, loads of complaints and police reports about rape and sexual assault that go ignored, tons women who *do not* report incidents in the first place due to fear, and the amount of abusers who walk free or see little to no jail time if convicted....there's really no contest when you put one anecdotal scenario against all the others. Yes, some women lie. But we have a huge problem in the criminal justice system that virtually ignores sexual abuse victims. We have the data that shows the issues. Lots, and lots, and lots of data. And despite our knowledge of it, we as a society are choosing to go after individuals in media and entertainment because going after the real people in power roles is next to impossible. This is the problem. It's not that women lie, it's that men who are truly in power are untouchable.
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