What's Bugging You Today? Volume 3, Part 1

[Satsuki]

Yep. I think, maybe, losing a progressive member of Congress over this is a mistake.

This, exactly. We exile our own, (he was forced out more or less) and the republicans get stronger.

[A Robot Bit Me]

Or MN will just elect another Democrat in 2018 and the Democratic governor will appoint a Democrat to fill Franken's seat until then.

He was a great legislator but I don't understand all the "lost seat" talk. Chill. It's fine. And if the party can't sustain itself without creeps, then it's not worth keeping around anyway. If excising abusers is "weakening" the party then fuck that party.

[Joust Williams]

Yeah

The parallel here is unfortunately "Olympic sports" (which is interesting because I think sports has had some effect on the way people look at politics). It seems like everyone is "cheating". "WE NEED TO BE CLEAN!", but then it turns out the new winner doped just the same.

Still, good on the Dems for taking a stand, and good on Franken for relenting

[Fe 26]

sportsthink is cancer for politics. It is fundamentally apposed to the desired outcome as we are ultimately all on the same team.

[Drewbacca]

He was a great legislator but I don't understand all the "lost seat" talk. Chill. It's fine. And if the party can't sustain itself without creeps, then it's not worth keeping around anyway. If excising abusers is "weakening" the party then fuck that party.

Except the Roy Moore stuff makes it pretty clear this kind of high minded idealism is devoid of any real use in the type of landscape America is dealing with.

[Satsuki]

again, drew and i agree!

[Fe 26]

Except the Roy Moore stuff makes it pretty clear this kind of high minded idealism is devoid of any real use in the type of landscape America is dealing with.

America 2017, where not fucking children is "high minded idealism"

[A Robot Bit Me]

Okay, but it's still more than likely not a lost Senate seat. I'm just talking about the numbers game.

[Drewbacca]

If a suitable and creepless progressive alt steps in then that’s great.

But the left (to me anyway) is a little willing too and eager to outrage itself to death in the name of a social cause. If a Roy Moore type happened to get in on the heels of Frankens demise so be it kind of thing.

[Error]

The Dems have to be able to go back to the public during the elections to come and say we're not like them, vote for us. Letting Frankin stay or fighting for him to stay despite multiple accusers just gives the opposition the ability to rightly say the Dems are no better. When the only majority you own is the moral high ground you can't piss that away.