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    Wii's Next Zelda Game

    Miyamoto says the franchise needs some big new ideas. What might the
    successor to Twilight Princess play and look like?
    by Matt Casamassina


    October 16, 2008 - When Nintendo unveiled The Legend of Zelda:
    Twilight Princess at the Electronic Entertainment Expo 2004 to a
    packed auditorium of journalists and fans, the crowd went wild, and
    some people in attendance actually cried. Yes -- real, genuine tears,
    induced by the very sight of a reborn Link, no longer a cel-shaded boy
    but a teenage warrior surrounded by a realistic world. Decades after
    the classic game released, few franchises in the history of the
    industry share the same powerful hold over players as Zelda, and yet
    Shigeru Miyamoto's series about a Hyrulian hero and a kidnapped
    princess has stayed stubbornly true to its roots through the years, a
    fact that some critics held against Twilight Princess when it shipped
    two years ago. These criticisms haven't fallen on deaf ears, for
    Miyamoto himself commented in an IGN interview that Zelda is "... a
    franchise that does need some big new unique ideas."

    Miyamoto offered those words at E3 2008, where he also confirmed that
    a new Wii Legend of Zelda game is in development by key members of the
    Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass teams. This new title is
    poised to be fundamentally different from its predecessors for a
    couple key reasons. First, Nintendo is obviously aware that the series
    needs a new hook or two -- even if Twilight Princess remains, in our
    humble opinion, one of the best adventure games of the generation, it
    lacks a certain freshness, largely because it adheres to the age-old
    Zelda formula. And second, whereas Twilight Princess began its life as
    a GameCube title and was later ported to Wii, this new Zelda project
    will be designed from the ground up to take advantage of Nintendo's
    little white box. It's with all of this in mind that we explore the
    the potential dos and the don'ts and focus our eyes keenly on the
    future of the Zelda franchise. Here are just a few possibilities:

    A Compelling New Tale
    Nintendo prides itself on creating games that simply play
    exceptionally well, but seldom do its titles, even those grand
    adventures, feature rich and compelling stories, particularly by
    today's standards. Although Link's journey to save princess Zelda has
    seen several unique variations over the years, it is usually still the
    same quest with new bells and whistles and it is partially because of
    this that titles like Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time feel so
    similar, whereas an all-new tale might have created a greater divide
    between the games. Case in point, you won't see any comparisons to
    director Eiji Aonuma's first N64 Zelda, Majora's Mask, for that dark
    and difficult title included an original storyline set outside of the
    traditional save-the-princess theme.

    "I would love to see a Zelda title that really takes story to the next
    level. Twilight Princess did a great job with storytelling -- more so
    than any other Zelda, I believe. I'd just like to see that taken a few
    steps further," says Kevin Cassidy, who operates the Nintendo website
    Go Nintendo. "We know that there are people on the Zelda team that
    would love to create a deep, rich story, but Miyamoto doesn't seem too
    fond of it. I think it's time to take the franchise in a more
    narrative direction. I think gamers can handle a Zelda with complex
    emotions, rather than on-the-surface responses."

    We loved the wolf mechanic in Twilight Princess. We also loved Midna.
    What can Nintendo come up with next?

    The narrative in Twilight Princess called upon the same methods that
    worked for Ocarina of Time a decade before it -- namely, a combination
    of game-engine cut-scenes, text bubbles and character grunts to drive
    story. No pre-rendered cinematics and no voice work, the latter of
    which has remained a pet-peeve of ours. Cassidy, though, stands atop
    the other side of the chasm.

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    "I don't ever want to see a Zelda game with voice acting. I know that
    most AAA titles of today feature voice acting, but I just don't think
    that works for the Zelda series. I have no trouble reading a story,
    and listening to grunts and sighs to accompany the text. I think that
    a speaking role for Link would really ruin the experience. Just
    because it can be done doesn't always mean that it's the right thing
    to do," he says, adding, "Do you really want line after line of Tingle
    dialog?"

    Actually, we don't. And we would prefer to avoid Tingle altogether,
    thank you very much. But we still contend that quality voice acting
    would enhance and not detract from the storyline in the next Zelda
    game. Link will forever be the silent warrior, but the characters he
    encounters might better come to life with rich, well-acted dialog, a
    technique designed by developers to immerse players into the
    experience. Text bubbles are, if nothing else, a constant reminder
    that you are playing a game, a presentational faux pas in today's
    industry, where software houses strive to make games void of graphical
    heads-up displays, let alone text-based character interactions. There
    is also the point that if Nintendo never tries, how can we ever really
    know? Long ago, Nintendo fans might have leveled the same skepticism
    at the company's attempts to drag the always-2D Mario games into the
    third-dimension with Super Mario 64. Looking back, nobody's
    complaining. Finally, Nintendo could take a cue from companies like
    BioWare, which are creating dialog trees for character interactions,
    offering players a level of flexibility that could actually have an
    impact on the storyline as they go.

    Regardless of how Nintendo chooses to present Zelda's storyline,
    though, most would agree that a fresh new tale would benefit the
    franchise. We have, over the years, come to appreciate Majora's Masks'
    interesting yarn set to the backdrop of an eerie moon threatening to
    fall on and crush the planet where Link finds himself stranded.
    Nothing, save for tradition, is keeping the developer glued to the
    damsel in distress lure and we hope that Miyamoto will consider
    upending the tea table, so to speak, when it comes time to pen Link's
    newest travels. We would stand up and cheer for a deep, complex and
    unpredictable story that reveals more about the Zelda characters than
    we've learned previously, and we would likewise like to see the
    franchise taken into altogether fresh directions. Whether that means
    new playable characters, the return of some fan favorites like Deity
    Link, some unexpected twists, or even the possibility that some major
    players could bite the dust, well, we'll leave the details up to
    Nintendo. Our one hope is that the storyline in Wii's next Zelda will
    continuously surprise us.

    No More Mr. Nice Guy
    The original Legend of Zelda was ridiculously epic and challenging for
    its time and some of franchise sequels have proven equally taxing.
    Majora's Mask again comes to mind. But few would argue that The Legend
    of Zelda: Wind Waker or Twilight Princess after it were overly
    challenging games. In fact, hardcore fans have expressed
    disappointment at how easily completed both titles were. That being
    true, we think it's time for Nintendo to turn up the heat with Wii's
    next Zelda game and provide the original fan base with an adventure
    worthy of Link's time. As seasoned Zelda fans, we long for the day
    when taking damage from an enemy resulted in the loss of more than one
    health heart and not just a fraction of a one heart, for example. An
    easy setting to tweak and if the developer so desires, it could
    provide multiple difficulty settings, still appeasing the casual user
    base -- a demographic, by the way, that we're still not convinced
    cares to play Zelda regardless of its difficulty setting. Directly
    relating to this is the challenge associated with fighting boss
    characters. Although formidable in size, few of the bosses in Twilight
    Princess presented notable hurdles to overcome, a disappointment given
    that the franchise helped establish boss fights with some truly
    intense and taxing battles. For the next game, we hope that Nintendo
    will not be afraid to create some hard fights -- situations where Link
    might actually perish and where players will need to use strategy and
    reflexes combined to emerge victorious.

    "Without the threat of doom, the beeping heart noise getting your
    adrenaline up, beating a boss just doesn't feel the same. Think about
    it, didn't you just hate Metroid Prime (the final boss)? Didn't you
    sink back in your chair after beating it with a true sense of
    accomplishment? A Zelda game that tries to cater to everyone will
    never be able to do this," says IGN's publisher, Peer Schneider, a
    longtime Zelda devotee and author of our Hyrule Times articles.


    Revolutionary New Controls with Wii MotionPlus

    Zelda traditionalists may argue that Nintendo needn't fix what isn't
    broken and that mucking around with MotionPlus controls could
    ultimately damage a perfectly fine configuration. Take, for example,
    Wired's Chris Kohler, who would rather the developer play it safe and
    remain cautious of dragging more motion work to the franchise.

    "I'd absolutely hate for the next big Zelda game to be a Wii
    MotionPlus game that's centered around 1:1 sword fighting, or
    something similar that throws the baby out with the bath water," he
    says

    Cassidy disagrees. "I can't stop thinking about the possibilities of
    MotionPlus. I would be extremely shocked and disappointed if the next
    Zelda title didn't use the device. The types of gameplay and movement
    that the MotionPlus makes possible would work perfectly into a Zelda
    game. It might be the best way to move the series forward, while
    still keeping things familiar. Everything from sword fighting to
    boomerangs would become a lot more engaging," he explains.

    With respect to Kohler, we tend to side with Cassidy on this one, but
    we definitely understand the point of keeping an eye on the dangers of
    overuse in regard to MotionPlus. Having waggle just for the sake of
    waggle is unnecessary and could even feel contrived or broken. Were,
    for example, the next Zelda to ditch the adventuring altogether for a
    MotionPlus-enhanced sword fighting game, we would not be able to
    contain our disappointment. Link's Crossbow Training is a fun
    diversion, but completely ignoring the fundamentals of the franchise
    in a major new release would be unfortunate for all the fans, us
    included, who have grown up exploring the open world of Hyrule in all
    of its glory and solving countless environmental puzzles.

    We didn't immediately love Wind Waker's style, but looking back, it
    was both gorgeous and extremely effective.

    We envision smart, gameplay-changing integration of MotionPlus in a
    manner that would complement today's Z-target lock-on. Imagine if Link
    could freely maneuver through a non-linear world in typical Zelda
    fashion, but as soon as he locked onto an enemy, players would be able
    to control his sword-carrying hand with perfect precision using the
    Wii remote. Players could still jump, strafe and even dodge with the
    nunchuk, but they could also deliver accurate, fast slices and dices
    with the remote. With this kind of pinpoint control, Link might even
    be able to block incoming projectiles -- arrows, fireballs, etc. --
    with his sword, but of course he wouldn't be reliant upon doing so,
    for holding down B-trigger would cue his shield. And when the lock-on
    is broken, normal controls would resume.

    "I would love to see the combat camera moving behind Link's shoulder,
    with Wii MotionPlus giving us unprecedented control over his sword,
    shield, hammer, hookshot, bow and arrow, and so on. It shouldn't just
    be mindless waggling, though. I want the game to use accurate
    swordplay as a unique mechanism and tool the enemies' behavior and
    weak points around this," Schneider. "Let me swipe up to knock a
    helmet of a Bokoblin and expose his noggin. Let me stab forward to hit
    a gap in the back of the shell of an Amos Knight. Let me pull back
    with the remote to block or parry a blow from a powerful enemy."

    Naturally, Wii MotionPlus controls wouldn't be limited to swordplay,
    as Schneider suggests. Nintendo could cleverly devise a series of new
    weapons that might make intuitive use of the control add-on. For
    instance, a spiked ball and chain that would allow players to
    accurately swing the Wii remote around to gain momentum, releasing the
    attack at precisely the right moment to inflict damage. Or, the
    ability to curve Link's boomerang using the same technique that works
    for frisbee in Wii Sports Resort. And what about finally being to hurl
    a bomb farther based on the power of motion, as measured by Nintendo's
    add-on? But one item above all else seems the perfect fit for
    MotionPlus and that is, of course, the Wind Waker, the magical baton
    that could literally conduct the wind in the hit GameCube title. Using
    MotionPlus, players could make subtle gestures that would be read and
    translated on-screen. Think of Wii Music's maestro mini-game taken to
    the next logical level, except as a legitimate hardcore gameplay
    mechanic.


    Don't Forget the Pointer

    Wii's next Zelda needn't embrace MotionPlus at the expense of the Wii
    pointer, which has thus far been every bit as effective as a gameplay
    tool as waggle. Twilight Princess, in fact, successfully used the
    pointer for the hookshot and for the bow and arrow and we think
    there's room for further integration. Schneider referenced Metroid
    Prime's boss battles, but we can also look to that game for pointer
    inspiration. Not only did it employ fast and smooth pointer-based
    shooter mechanics, but it transformed the Wii remote into a virtual
    welder, enabling Samus to burn together cracks in walls in order to
    proceed. The mechanic was a lot of fun and we've always wondered why
    more developers haven't put the controller to use for similar results.
    If any developer can one-up Retro Studios, it's Nintendo. Hopefully
    the studio can develop some new tools for Link in his next adventure
    so that gamers might have fresh reasons to grip the company's
    revolutionary remote. We don't think anybody would be offended if the
    Miyamoto and crew looked to a title like Okami, with its on-screen
    drawing mechanic, and aspired for something similar.
    Last edited by parallaxscroll; 17 Oct 2008 at 02:36 PM.

  2. #2
    Copy what I'm supposed to read and paste it here.

    I know how to go to IGN, thanks.

  3. #3
    Worst thread title ever too.

  4. And why the fuck would I follow 5 fucking pages of links when I don't really give a shit. Post the pertinent information in the thread or don't make one.
    You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.

  5. Hay forum, remember Majora's Mask? That was rad.

  6. The gist: It's all speculation. Has nothing to do with whatever new game may be in development. Nothing concrete, just what media types or Zelda fanboys think should be in the next game.

    I was going to complain about the previous bitching, but it's warranted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    STFU GTFO

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Port View Post
    Nothing concrete, just what media types or Zelda fanboys think should be in the next game.

    ...

    ... ...

    Triple hookshot.
    Last edited by A Robot Bit Me; 17 Oct 2008 at 09:13 AM.

  8. I fixed the retarded ass title.

  9. IGNornance strikes again.

  10. The next one will have Hyrulian hookers.
    Where I play
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolemite
    I've changed my mind about Korian. Anyone that can piss off so many people so easily is awesome. You people are suckers, playing right into his evil yellow hands.

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