Election Thread 2016

[Diff-chan]

I'm pretty sure that's the policy of every President since Truman. Including Obama.

[Yoshi]

I don't care about policy. I haven't seen the execution. Politics should be a results business, which is why Obama should be fired.

[Bojack]

I'd ensure that we can win a war fought on two fronts decisively.

Who would/could directly attack and get away with it? China? No, a few well placed cruise missiles and their everything is screwed. Russia? Germany? War is too technical for us to need half the shit we have.

[Diff-chan]

I don't care about policy. I haven't seen the execution. Politics should be a results business, which is why Obama should be fired.

So you would be happier with Obama's "defense policy" if he started a bunch of stupid wars like Bush did? The military today is no less capable than it was in 2005. In fact, I would say it's more capable, since its only bogged down in one idiotic war instead of two.

[Yoshi]

It wasn't capable enough in 2005, which is obvious since we're still fighting the same damn wars.

[FirstBlood]

You don't live on this planet do you

[Yoshi]

Who would/could directly attack and get away with it? China? No, a few well placed cruise missiles and their everything is screwed. Russia? Germany? War is too technical for us to need half the shit we have.

China has a massive, massive troop advantage. They'd be a bitch to fight for that reason alone. I'm more thinking that China could try to take advantage once we're entangled somewhere else, likely in the Middle East. Germany's a nobody. They're every bit as much a threat as Switzerland. Russia would depend a lot on who is in power. They will never have the balls to directly attack us, but they could aid someone else or try some similar backdoor play as China.

But to your point, military isn't just jets and battleships and tanks. I'd invest heavily in cyberwarfare both defensively and offensively. Screw this tying up money shit we're doing to Iran. Granted, we'd never know if we were doing a lot more than that now, so it's possible.

[Diff-chan]

But to your point, military isn't just jets and battleships and tanks. I'd invest heavily in cyberwarfare both defensively and offensively. Screw this tying up money shit we're doing to Iran. Granted, we'd never know if we were doing a lot more than that now, so it's possible.

They ARE doing that. The Pentagon talks about cyberwarfare all the time. And we already know they planted one virus in Iran (Stuxnet).

[Yoshi]

I don't care what they talk about. The decisive results are not there. Iran is nuclear, and we're still in Iraq and Afghanistan. And it's not because we need to bail out with the job half done. The job should have been done years ago.

[Bojack]

China has a massive, massive troop advantage. They'd be a bitch to fight for that reason alone. I'm more thinking that China could try to take advantage once we're entangled somewhere else, likely in the Middle East. Germany's a nobody. They're every bit as much a threat as Switzerland. Russia would depend a lot on who is in power. They will never have the balls to directly attack us, but they could aid someone else or try some similar backdoor play as China.

But to your point, military isn't just jets and battleships and tanks. I'd invest heavily in cyberwarfare both defensively and offensively. Screw this tying up money shit we're doing to Iran. Granted, we'd never know if we were doing a lot more than that now, so it's possible.

How would China get enough people over here? I'd be shocked if a single non-sub ship or a plane could actually get over here so they'd have to try some kind of roundabout stunt of "invading Poland" to draw us out. They still would have a very hard time keeping their troops equipped as we agent orange their crops and bomb their factories from miles away. We get tied up in military conflict because we play much much nicer than other nations have in history. Also, every one enjoys stability.

Iran is nuclear, and we're still in Iraq and Afghanistan. And it's not because we need to bail out with the job half done. The job should have been done years ago.

Who cares that Iran is nuclear? The only reason we have to worry about that is if we fool ourselves into thinking the Iranian government would martyr the entire country by bombing some one because their death would be on the way before their first ICBM touched down. A better course of dealing with Iran would be to leave them alone. Hell could be the only reason they want nukes is because we and Israel scare the shit outta them.

Also what job are you talking about?