Election Thread 2016

**Doc Holliday** · 30 Sep 2016, 11:32 PM

We also need to separate hate and racism, and logic from mythology surrounding racism.

On a tangible scale that means - whites abandoning the confederate flag, repaying slavery by making an honest effort to incentivize African American employment and small business loans, we owe them a shot at that Anerican Dream, blacks have to abandon #BLM, support their children, police their neighborhoods, and put pressure on gangs, the government needs to streamline easy fucking visas for foreign labor at the cost of a 1.5x tax bracket until citizenship is issued at a reasonable timeframe, and finally Muslims have to put out radical Islam as the Anglos in the UK and US did with slavery & segregation.

Racism is so prevalent because none of these tribes want to own up to inner problems. Instead, they blame each other and hold their fucking grudges for generations over the past.

EDIT: give the natives back The Dakotas, Oklahoma and New Mexico after whitey cleans up the meth epidemic

**icarusfall** · 30 Sep 2016, 11:41 PM

There's an issue there with First People. If you give the plains tribes land, what do you do with the Seminole? The Cherokee? That land is too valuable to give back.

**Doc Holliday** · 30 Sep 2016, 11:43 PM

Good point. The legal wrangling of land ownership would go on forever. But they need power given back to them. Be it, congress seats, districts, etc.

**icarusfall** · 30 Sep 2016, 11:46 PM

I for sure agree with that. A parliamentary system would address many grievances.

**Fe 26** · 30 Sep 2016, 11:50 PM

White people could just accept that they are horrible and tell everyone to fuck off?

Because we are never going to make this shit right. Never. We are never going to balance our new rational and fair outlook with the lives we are accustomed to living.

We are not going to give the US back to the Indians. We are not going to make Africa great and modern and send everyone from there back. We are not going to go back to England or Europe or where ever the fuck we came from. And when we get there, England, France, Germany and Russia are not going to fix everything and everyone they've fucked over in the past 2000 years.

We're not giving back the gold, or the silver, or the diamonds, or the oil, or the land.

We can barely give the minorities we have a little leg up on getting a job. half our country bitches endlessly about affirmative action, minorities scholarships, minority admissions, allowing segregated schools. We can't even get 50% of people to agree to not be complete garbage. Like, we ask for hey, lets give these people a spoonful of not horrible. And they are like NO, THAT ISN'T FAIR.

**Drewbacca** · 30 Sep 2016, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by YellerDog

List of revolutions that worked: those two. List of disasters: most of the other ones.

They also were pretty specific in what they wanted out of a new government against an over arching system. I haven't heard even a single idea from the burn it all crowd that wouldnt make things worse.

Even then this very thread is calling for a Parliament hill. So without the revolution you would have had that by now.

**Doc Holliday** · 01 Oct 2016, 12:14 AM

He're the rub, IP. We gave the gold, and the silver, and the diamonds, and the oil their value. A lot of our tribal conflicts are based in separate values. The western world projected their virtues onto other cultures and expected them to jump on board. And that part I don't know how to reconcile. I don't know how to balance the rift which is explained here.

**Satsuki** · 01 Oct 2016, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Doc Holliday

Can you blame them, when this is the education they are getting in universities these days?

This teacher rules. I'd welcome a talk about Pepe in any soc class right now. I'm a soc major and all my professors have been at LEAST 7 years behind the times about this kind of stuff. I'm in Sociology of the Family right now and we're in the "gender" chapter, and my god the disconnect between what is taught and real life....there's a serious lag. Kudos to this guy even if the students are mega embarrassed about it, the dedicated students will realize how lucky they are to get a teacher that actually resides in 2016.

**Doc Holliday** · 01 Oct 2016, 01:42 AM

The problem is, and I wasn't in the class, but the slides are regurgitating an MSNBC marketing campaign rather than a legitimate social study of online culture. You can't see something on CNN, then googe "Pepe", going to the News tab, spend three hours reading commercial, advertising driven news articles you found, jump to the image tab, collect some Pepes, then give a lecture on it. That tells you nothing about Pepe. But it would be the start of a great study on the ignorance of modern news.