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    Quote Originally Posted by bbobb View Post
    Also there is an obvious link between guns and the large numbers of gun deaths and injuries
    The opposition doesn't care about gun deaths, but total deaths. You've been told this several times. But your dull mind seems to think they are the same thing. They are not.

    Quote Originally Posted by bbobb View Post
    While there is nothing relating small breasts and pedophiles
    sure there are, all those little kids have small or no tits

  2. Quote Originally Posted by The Gas View Post
    So car owners are being treated as future criminals right now?
    Sure. Though the close proximity of roads accidents occur with high frequency. Cases of people accidentally killing themselves or someone else with a gun does occur, but these cases are not wrought with mystery. A car is not a gun, and vice versa.

    Quote Originally Posted by kedawa View Post
    Aren't there already background checks?
    I have an American friend that can't vote or own firearms because he went to prison for growing pot.
    Is he just on the honor system?
    CNN recently did a piece on guns. And the reporter could only buy an AR-15 (the same gun as the school shooting). I think he was hoping to come out of the shop with an M-16 to make his story.
    Last edited by Drewbacca; 25 Apr 2013 at 09:42 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by rezo
    Once, a gang of fat girls threatened to beat me up for not cottoning to their advances. As they explained it to me: "guys can usually beat up girls, but we are all fat, and there are a lot of us."

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Drewbacca View Post
    Sure. Though the close proximity of roads accidents occur with high frequency. Cases of people accidentally killing themselves or someone else with a gun does occur, but these cases are not wrought with mystery. A car is not a gun, and vice versa.
    Right. The function of a car isn't to kill. When someone is killed with a car, it's (almost) always an accident. Yet no-one thinks it's weird or wrong or that they're being treated as a criminal because we have to register them. So why should the standard be MORE lax for a product that ends life when used as directed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gohron View Post
    I like doing stuff with animals and kids

  4. #10064
    Quote Originally Posted by Fe 26 View Post
    all those little kids have small or no tits
    They also have legs. You are all pedophiles.

  5. #10065
    Arms too, you sick bastards.

  6. Except for the droopy-eyed ones.

  7. #10067
    Quote Originally Posted by The Gas View Post
    Right. The function of a car isn't to kill. When someone is killed with a car, it's (almost) always an accident. Yet no-one thinks it's weird or wrong or that they're being treated as a criminal because we have to register them. So why should the standard be MORE lax for a product that ends life when used as directed?
    Honestly? It probably has more to do with the 'spirit of the nation' when they were released. It probably just felt like the way to do it at the time.

    If I was to be pessimistic about it, I would say it was because they are such an expensive purchase and it was a way to force certain practices that make money for other people such as insurance or sales tax at purchase.

    You don't register them because they are dangerous. You register them because they are expensive. We spent billions if not trillions on the road system they run on. We spend millions each year on insurance claims. And they consume energy that could be used for other things.

    I wouldn't care if we didn't have to register cars or buy them tags. But the result would be getting drivers insurance and not car insurance, and the insurance companies would never go for that. They'd much rather you pay for each vehicle on your policy and not each driver, even though most people don't drive their vehicles all at the same time.

    Maybe we need to start selling killing insurance and put a tax on bullets. Maybe you can slip a registry in with that.

    EDIT: You also don't have to register a car. You could buy one and just let it sit in your yard. Or buy a lot of land and drive it on your own roads. You only have to register it if you want to drive it on public roads. Why? So they can tax it and force you to pay insurance because you are now a threat to other motorist and your car will put wear on the road. (but mostly just to make revenue off of you)
    Last edited by Fe 26; 26 Apr 2013 at 12:02 AM.

  8. Lives on the other had, those are cheap.
    You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by The Gas View Post
    Right. The function of a car isn't to kill. When someone is killed with a car, it's (almost) always an accident. Yet no-one thinks it's weird or wrong or that they're being treated as a criminal because we have to register them. So why should the standard be MORE lax for a product that ends life when used as directed?
    I think you fundamentally misunderstand the registration of cars.

    Why do we register cars? Car registration came primarily from a need to tax them for infrastructure and maintenance. It wasn't safety—that was incidental. When it comes to recovering a stolen vehicle or identifying one used in criminal activity the serial number on the engine is ultimately the most important identification in crime since license plates can be taken off easily, or replaced with stolen plates that don't belong to that car. All modern firearms similarly come from the factory with serial numbers—but because firearms serve a smaller purpose the need for licensing isn't as prevalent. Also insurance and other things associated with the operation of a car come in to play. So there's a lot of reasons why registering a car and having a license makes sense. Also note that if you're not driving a car on public roadways you don't actually have to register it at all while it's operated on private property.

    TLDR: For many reasons cars != guns.
    Last edited by Drewbacca; 26 Apr 2013 at 02:57 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by rezo
    Once, a gang of fat girls threatened to beat me up for not cottoning to their advances. As they explained it to me: "guys can usually beat up girls, but we are all fat, and there are a lot of us."

  10. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


    Honestly, I can't believe this is still a fucking debate. How many Americans honestly think they need to be able to defend the country from invasion these days? And how many Americans really think they need to protect themselves from tyrannical oppression these days?

    It's an amendment. So amend it again. Update it. Or just accept that every six weeks some crazy fuck is going to kill children with a gun bought via one loophole and bullets bought with another.

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