The Obama Presidency

[Doc Holliday]

Bush was an awesome president. He slashed income taxes to 1920's levels and put money in our pockets, brought the stock markets back up from it's slump and the DOW to a record 14000, and last but not least, put our solders back to work after eight years of being lousy, no good, shiftless, privates.

Two months in, Obama's already killed the markets and plans to put all our solders out of work at a time when jobs are scarce.

[Thief Silver]

Well FOR ME it did start with Bush. Bush was the first president I'll have ever cared about (Achy Breakey Heart style) and by the time I was coming around he was the devil, a man of pure evil, a man who was trying to destroy the world. No he was just a bit of a dense goofball with perhaps an evil vice president. Granted he destroyed McCain's image in 2000 at least from every account I see; but that's a campaign most of them do it to some degree, and it's all despicable.

Certainly things may have been better if McCain won then, or not I don't know. But it doesn't seem like the Ire directed towards Bush is normal, too bad our coverage of Obama is either cock sucking liberal or fear mongering conservative neither of which I'm apt to trust. I actually lost my original point while typing this out though...

Bush was an awesome president. He slashed income taxes to 1920's levels and put money in our pockets, brought the stock markets back up from it's slump and the DOW to a record 14000, and last but not least, put our solders back to work after eight years of being lousy, no good, shiftless, privates.

Two months in, Obama's already killed the markets and plans to put all our solders out of work at a time when jobs are scarce.

This is amazing because it's absolutely a spin I can hear people saying.

[Doc Holliday]

The whole Bush/McCain thing has been blown way out of proportion. McCain brought it on himself by siring a black child.

[innova]

I've been quite on this for a while so fuck it....

What people fail to see is that Bush deposed a DICTATOR, in a country where his sons raped innocent women. People were not able to freely vote or speak their mind, etc. Yet if Bush didn't have the balls to invade Iraq those people wouldn't have the rights that they have today. WMDs were found, they might not have been as bad as he said they were though, but none the less he brought Democracy to a country that didn't have it. And don't tell me the Iraqis didn't want it, within minutes of Saddam being captured they had their crappy 1980s MJ tapes blasting on their ghetto blasters dancing in the street.

The youth program that Obama wants is scary. Ever seen a North Korean child chanting their praise for their Dear leader? That's some fun shit...

Also the inauguration, people bitched on how much was spent for Bush's second inaug but when their lord and savior Barack was more expensive they were magically quite. Also its interesting how so few can get out of New Orleans with a few days notice but 2 million can pile into D.C. in one day.

Problem is a lot of people get their opinion from sources that have no fucking clue as to what they are talking about, just some asshat repeating what they heard like a fucking parrot.

[Yoshi]

Eh people were hard on Clinton. People were hard on Bush and people will be brutal to Obama if he keeps this shit up.


We have a tendency in this nation to beat the president senseless when things don't go right. It find it amazing that people think this started with Bush. The exploding over the top negative media coverage started during the Clinton years, and was perfected during the Bush years.

You're fucking nuts. Yes, Presidents get more credit/blame than they often deserve, but Clinton barely took any abuse other than that small matter of obstruction of justice.

[youandwhosearmy]

Well FOR ME it did start with Bush. Bush was the first president I'll have ever cared about (Achy Breakey Heart style) and by the time I was coming around he was the devil, a man of pure evil, a man who was trying to destroy the world. No he was just a bit of a dense goofball with perhaps an evil vice president. Granted he destroyed McCain's image in 2000 at least from every account I see; but that's a campaign most of them do it to some degree, and it's all despicable.

Certainly things may have been better if McCain won then, or not I don't know. But it doesn't seem like the Ire directed towards Bush is normal, too bad our coverage of Obama is either cock sucking liberal or fear mongering conservative neither of which I'm apt to trust. I actually lost my original point while typing this out though...



This is amazing because it's absolutely a spin I can hear people saying.

Well media coverage of a president or party in this country is just complete nonsense to begin with. If a president speaks we make sure we listen to the network that will either gush over him or rip him to shreds. I wasn't discounting your analysis btw, I'm just pointing out our overload of negative presidential coverage started in the 90's when the news networks all needed to find more shit to talk about. I remember a particular two week period where every single network was debating whether a blowjob counted as sexual intercourse.

Since then our media has become nothing but a collection of absurd tangents. It is now a completely useless tool for information gathering to make a political decision, culminated by Fox New's "Two sets of facts" campaign when they were first starting out, which claimed the media was far too left, and that they are going to answer this call by being as far right as possible, and giving you the "other" set of facts. By pitting "our facts" against "their facts," Fox news pretty much guaranteed our media could never be taken seriously again.

And about Bush I agree to a point. I hate the fucking guy because his administration did some things that still fucking defy logic, but I never thought he was any more evil than any other politician with a stupid agenda. He just lost me at trying to convince me Iraq attacked us on 9/11, but his fuck ups were all amplified by a media that was upset at how his administration dished out information, and the fact that they were pretty spectacular.

Honestly though, he was pretty bad. I think history will be kinder to him than he deserves, especially considering most people are already forgetting so many of the things he was responsible for.

[Doc Holliday]

I've been quite on this for a while so fuck it....

What people fail to see is that Bush deposed a DICTATOR, in a country where his sons raped innocent women. People were not able to freely vote or speak their mind, etc. Yet if Bush didn't have the balls to invade Iraq those people wouldn't have the rights that they have today. WMDs were found, they might not have been as bad as he said they were though, but none the less he brought Democracy to a country that didn't have it. And don't tell me the Iraqis didn't want it, within minutes of Saddam being captured they had their crappy 1980s MJ tapes blasting on their ghetto blasters dancing in the street.

So why Iraq and not North Korea (China?), Iran (too strong?), Pakistan (nukes?), Uzbekistan (who?), Turkmenistan (what?), or Sudan (LOL Africa!)?

And do so at a time when our country was heading for Clinton-inspired financial crisis and rats were gunning for our towers. That was the sin of Iraq.


EDIT: rats in Pakistan I might add.

EDIT 2: And at the cost of Afghanistan, a country we liberated then neglected, a county whose people were unable to be conquered by neither Alexander the Great nor Russia. Oh Iraq, you misguided agenda. Our country fixed a leak while the den was on fire.

[innova]

Bush was an awesome president. He slashed income taxes to 1920's levels and put money in our pockets, brought the stock markets back up from it's slump and the DOW to a record 14000, and last but not least, put our solders back to work after eight years of being lousy, no good, shiftless, privates.

Two months in, Obama's already killed the markets and plans to put all our solders out of work at a time when jobs are scarce.

Good to know that some people don't have their head up Barack's ass smelling his Hershey highway.


Another thing, people bitch about Bush being on vacation all the time. Look fuckwits the President of the United States doesn't get vacation. Despite the fact he was at his Crawford ranch he was still up receiving his briefings and doing his job. He doesn't get the same vacation that we get, vacation is a poor choice to describe it. More like working at a different office. It could be Air Force One, the Oval Office, Camp David or Crawford Texas. He was still receiving his daily briefings and making decisions, just a change of venue. Its not like when he went to Crawford he was magically not the President, not receiving briefings and holding meetings.

[youandwhosearmy]

You're fucking nuts. Yes, Presidents get more credit/blame than they often deserve, but Clinton barely took any abuse other than that small matter of obstruction of justice.

No trust me I'm quite sane. You are just forgetting shit you shouldn't be.

The media was all over that shit. From the tapes, to the Ken Starr report, to analyzing the Ken Starr report, bringing back Paula Jones, to trying to dig up every women he might have met through his life, to Monica Lewinsky becoming a fat purse designer. History has washed your memory of how bad that coverage was but I assure you it was fucking bad.

The coverage was so ridiculous it made people like Clinton more, as cries of "Impeach him!" became cries of "Christ, leave him alone!"

It was also the beginning of the 25 hour news day and of hypernova political coverage, which was my point to Thief. We started covering and treating Presidents like Paris Hilton before Bush.

[innova]

So why Iraq and not North Korea (China?), Iran (too strong?), Pakistan (nukes?), Uzbekistan (who?), Turkmenistan (what?), or Sudan (LOL Africa!)?

And do so at a time when our country was heading for Clinton-inspired financial crisis and rats were gunning for our towers. That was the sin of Iraq.

Cause he was finishing the job his dad didn't finish....duh