The Obama Presidency

[icarusfall]

lol fetuses.

[Yoshi]

Ah, you are of that persuasion.

Consistent? Yes.

(Nearly) anyone can own a gun and have sex. Everyone should be held 100% accountable for choosing to do either.

[sleeve]

There is lots than can be done, all involving holding the owners accountable for securing their firearms.

So you would prosecute the parents for criminal negligence? Manslaughter? Murder?

I would.

What is laughable is that you would have no problem if all 41 of them were aborted by their selfish, irresponsible parent(s).

I wouldn't have the slightest problem with that.

[Fe 26]

There is lots than can be done, all involving holding the owners accountable for securing their firearms.

What is laughable is that you would have no problem if all 41 of them were aborted by their selfish, irresponsible parent(s).

neither have kept me awake at night.

The 9000 something nonwhites that shoot each other each year bothers me a little. Also the fact that I lose privacy rights everyday, but I don't really gain anything for it. Like, you know, stopping those 9000 nonwhites from shooting each other.

[Fe 26]

So you would prosecute the parents for criminal negligence? Manslaughter? Murder?

if this happened, I wouldn't lose sleep either. At least it would make some margin of sense.

[Some Stupid Japanese Name]

I have no problem with abortion as I think it is necessary, especially with the way fucktards are shitting babies out these days.
But let's call a spade a spade. If a chick has an abortion, she is killing a baby. It sucks, but it's what it is.

When I was a kid I used to drive tractors around my grandfather's farm. One day I was fairly wreckless and broke branches full of blossoms off of the apple trees as I raced through the orchards. He spanked the tar out of me. Those weren't just dumb flowers to him. Those were future apples and I cost him money.

[Yoshi]

So you would prosecute the parents for criminal negligence? Manslaughter? Murder?

I didn't read the details, but I'm absolutely open to the possibility, depending what they did or didn't do. If my daughter is at a friend's house and gets killed because the parents were negligent, they better hope they get locked up.

edit: Warning: I feel the need to pontificate further on this. The reason I think parents should be able to be prosecuted in a case like this is very much the same reason I'm against abortion. Children are not property. Breaking your possessions, whether intentional or by accident is fine. Hurting your children isn't.

This same logic applies to abortion for me. Bodies don't have two heads, two hearts, etc., so the baby being part of the mother's body is unmitigated bullshit pretty early on. By complete coincidence, I align with the religious there. However, I also think this logic should apply to negligence in the form of not getting kids medical attention and relying on faith healing. You're welcome to practice any bat shit religion you want, but that freedom does not extend to your children. They can make their own choice in that area. In the meantime, it's a parent or guardian's job to protect them in the most effective way possible.

[YellerDog]

(Nearly) anyone can own a gun and have sex. Everyone should be held 100% accountable for choosing to do either.

What's the infraction and what's 'accountable' mean to you?

[Yoshi]

Accountable means you take full responsibility for your actions. Abortion is a selfish, irresponsible act and the antithesis of this. In both cases, a person's responsibility, once they choose the action, is to ensure the well being of everyone else. What they do to themselves is their business. This applies to both the man and the woman in the case of sex.

[MechDeus]

Bodies don't have two heads, two hearts, etc., so the baby being part of the mother's body is unmitigated bullshit pretty early on.

But the fetus does use the mother's kidneys, which is why dialysis patients almost exclusively have miscarriages and premature births.