The Obama Presidency

[Doc Holliday]

Spacey is on.

[Diff-chan]

ok, I decided it was bad and I'm not for it.

Now what?

btw, what fucking sense does it make to come into a discussion and say "THIS IS A THING THAT HAPPENS"

No one gives a shit if people figure out how to profit off of things that no one profited off of before. We're talking about something done since mother fuckers could hold a tune, becoming a felony.

Fucking hell.

yea, the issue actually is money. Led Zeppelin made a shitload of money covering those old songs, so a system was put into place to pay songwriters for covers.

Nobody is going to go after Joe Schmo in his garage covering Over the Hills and Far Away. Now or ever. Put a video on YT and get a bunch of views and some ad revenue and yea people are going to be pissed.

So instead of turning people into felons, figure out a system whereby the people who own the copyrights get paid. Just like it is now for covers in other forms. This isn't that hard.

[Fe 26]

Fucking hell.

yea, the issue actually is money. Led Zeppelin made a shitload of money covering those old songs, so a system was put into place to pay songwriters for covers.

it really has nothing to do with Led Zeppelin making a lot of money and not paying royalties. Those old blues guys didn't band together to create a system to get royalties. Big labels got together and did it to get extra revenue. Tiny Bradshaw and Johnny Burnette and the like didn't start that shit. And I'd be impressed if their families ever saw a dime from the system we have now.

And you're doing it again. Saying "this is a thing that happened" doesn't make it ok. And it doesn't make a similiar situation happening in the future ok.

Nobody is going to go after Joe Schmo in his garage covering Over the Hills and Far Away. Now or ever. Put a video on YT and get a bunch of views and some ad revenue and yea people are going to be pissed.

Is this climate, you don't know this. We have mother fuckers being shot for playing poker in their house with friends. What makes you think that the same won't happen for a kid playing a cover in a garage? Or at least see it abused and used as a way for police to knock on garage doors and harass kids? "Hey, hey, I thought I heard "don't fear the reaper" in there" "better cut that shit out before I take you all in for not paying your licensing fees!"

I can promise you that will happen if this passes. In a country as big as the US, and as backwards as some parts of it are, some cop WILL use it to harass and intimidate someone after it becomes law.

figure out a system whereby the people who own the copyrights get paid. Just like it is now for covers in other forms. This isn't that hard.

How about fuck them? They need to get over it and find another way to make money.

[Doc Holliday]

I'm going to swing my cock around until it hits someone in the face.

I know you guys are debating with The Professor, but this is all I hear.

[Fe 26]

*PLURP* *PLARP* !SMACK!

[Drewbacca]

The last thing you want is MORE power in the private sectors hand.

If you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about, after all.

[Yoshi]

I'm anxiously awaiting the series of posts explaining how Syria is different than Iraq as soon as Obama decides to take military action without Congressional sign off.

[Opaque]

They have totally different names. Totally different. Iraq doesn't even have a single S or Y in it anywhere. You can't find them. It's impossible.

Why can't we just not be at war for a few years? Do we not have enough problems here that need our attention? Someone else play world police and throw your own young men at other countries problems. No one is even going to be happy were doing this.

[Calliander]

I'm anxiously awaiting the series of posts explaining how Syria is different than Iraq as soon as Obama decides to take military action without Congressional sign off.

I don't know if you're going to get them. Though I know that Assad is killing his own people just like Saddam was I think Iraq has hardened me against the idea of intervening. And this President lost my defense with the wiretapping and whatnot. I can't speak for other liberals, though, so we shall see.

They have totally different names. Totally different. Iraq doesn't even have a single S or Y in it anywhere.

Syria used to be the same country as Iraq when everything was Mesopotamia! YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT!

[Diff-chan]

Why can't we just not be at war for a few years? Do we not have enough problems here that need our attention? Someone else play world police and throw your own young men at other countries problems. No one is even going to be happy were doing this.

Seriously.

The problem with Yoshi is that he thinks in terms of teams, if you are a liberal Bush is on the "bad team" so you opposed Iraq but Obama is on the "good team" so OBVIOUSLY you support Syria.

But in the real world...

Nobody supports this BS. Approval ratings are shockingly low. Liberals don't want this war. Conservatives don't either. Anybody who is realistic about what can happen in the Middle East and Syria in particular don't want this. The only people who support it are bloodthirsty lunatics like Bill Kristol, Joe Lieberman, and John McCain, guys that never met a war they didn't like.

As bad as Assad is - and he is really bad - if he falls, the guys who will replace him will be worse. This is going to be a disaster.