The Obama Presidency

[Yoshi]

I think in terms of teams? I want to issue an open challenge to everyone to find me a single link on the internet over the period of however long this engagement lasts that says that Obama did this for oil. Those who said that about Bush are the assholes who think in terms of teams. I think going into Syria is the right thing to do, assuming we actually know for sure who the bad guys are, though the timing sucks, and I don't trust the Commander in Chief at all on anything.

[Yoshi]

Do we not have enough problems here that need our attention?

The federal government does not solve problems. Other than the financial and human capital that will be spent, we're better off with them pointing their attention away from everything else so that the problems won't be made worse by their intervention, a la Obamacare.

[FirstBlood]

You're so weird.

[Anthony]

The federal government does not solve problems. Other than the financial and human capital that will be spent, we're better off with them pointing their attention away from everything else so that the problems won't be made worse by their intervention, a la Obamacare.

I'm sure them spending more money on wars in foreign countries is exactly what this country needs.

It seems like all the people who said that Iraq under Bush was horrible are also saying Syria under Obama is horrible.

[sleeve]

I'm anxiously awaiting the series of posts explaining how Syria is different than Iraq as soon as Obama decides to take military action without Congressional sign off.

GO RED TEAM

BOO BLUE TEAM

Seriously, though. I opposed military intervention in Iraq. I oppose military intervention in Syria. I do believe that the Bush Administration used the AUMF to justify the Iraq War, so I'm not sure what your point is other than to play red team blue team once again.

[Diff-chan]

I think in terms of teams? I want to issue an open challenge to everyone to find me a single link on the internet over the period of however long this engagement lasts that says that Obama did this for oil. Those who said that about Bush are the assholes who think in terms of teams. I think going into Syria is the right thing to do, assuming we actually know for sure who the bad guys are, though the timing sucks, and I don't trust the Commander in Chief at all on anything.

The US obviously went into Iraq over oil. It wasn't over WMDs, because they had none and Bush/Cheney knew they didn't. It wasn't because Hussein gassed a bunch of people in the 1980s, because the US knew about that and was cool with it. It wasn't to stop terrorists, because there were no terrorists in Iraq until we got there too.

As soon as we got there we started locking down supply and tried to set up sweetheart deals with western oil firms while the country burned. Okay it wasn't just oil, it was also ideology.

This isn't about oil because Syria doesn't produce much. A quick look at Wiki says that at their peak they were exporting ~150k barrels per day, which is a drop in the bucket. US consumes like 18m barrels per day.

[Yoshi]

It took some coaxing, but diff delivered the first load of bullshit.

[Diff-chan]

Feel free to counter it with any information you have.

[Yoshi]

I'd say the guy accusing the President and Vice President of what would constitute high crimes bears all of the burden of proof, and there's no damn way you can prove what you just claimed.

[Diff-chan]

That's pretty convenient.