The Obama Presidency

**sleeve** · 28 Aug 2013, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Yoshi

There isn't, and I am frankly pleasantly surprised at the consistency. I have a lot less issue with liberals than Democrats, and I've been saying for months now that it's all of us against Washington, despite sleeve's red vs. blue bullshit.

It's not "my" bullshit.

**arjue** · 28 Aug 2013, 12:49 AM

There is a whole economy to war which is very prosperous for the people and companies involved, which is why the west has been in a near constant state of war for many decades. This has nothing to do with bipartisan politics, as both sides benefit from it greatly. It has nothing to do with right or wrong or left or right, its about money and it will always be about money.

**Space Pirate Roberts** · 28 Aug 2013, 03:09 AM

^Pretty much this. If we aren't at perpetual war, there'll be no demand from the government for missiles and AKs and humvees. If the government stops buying missiles and AKs and humvees, the companies that make missiles and AKs and humvees will have to severely downsize. If the companies that make missiles and AKs and humvees downsize, A LOT of voters will be out of work. If A LOT of voters go out of of work, they'll have their senators' heads on a pike.

Don't end up with your head on some munitions lineworker's pike. Switch to Perpetual Warfare today!

**Anthony** · 28 Aug 2013, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by The Gas

^Pretty much this. If we aren't at perpetual war, there'll be no demand from the government for missiles and AKs and humvees. If the government stops buying missiles and AKs and humvees, the companies that make missiles and AKs and humvees will have to severely downsize. If the companies that make missiles and AKs and humvees downsize, A LOT of voters will be out of work. If A LOT of voters go out of of work, they'll have their senators' heads on a pike.

Don't end up with your head on some munitions lineworker's pike. Switch to Perpetual Warfare today!

That's luddite theory though. Plenty of times people are put out of work and forced into new fields because they are no longer necessary. You are misjudging rather the effect of the money those companies are putting forwards into influencing the government, rather than that works themselves who have comparatively little power (Well, they HAVE power to an extent, they just don't really use it to address their problems, so in practice they have very little)

**Diff-chan** · 28 Aug 2013, 12:24 PM

Culturally speaking, Americans typically love wars and battles. For Europe and Asia, World War 2 was a scorched-earth nightmare that must never be replicated. For the US, it was our finest hour and highest glory. We're still riding off the fumes. Even after Vietnam people chose to buy into some nonsensical "politicians didn't let us win" narrative instead of facing reality.

These war profiteers and politicians are just giving Americans what they want.

I wonder if Iraq really marked the beginning of a cultural change though. Clinton lost in 2008 thanks to her Iraq vote. Lybia was never popular and this Syria incursion is about as popular as syphilis.