The Obama Presidency

[Diff-chan]

Also: what do you mean ,exactly, by "lack of decisiveness"?

[Yoshi]

No one went through Russia. We had absolutely nothing to do with any of it. We were too busy dicking around.

[Diff-chan]

What is "dicking around" in this context?

[Yoshi]

Shit like waiting until September 11 to engage Congress so that Obama's symbolism over substance guarantee could be fulfilled for example.

[Anthony]

We didn't do anything. That's the problem. Obama and Kerry's lack of decisiveness led to Putin gaining global clout, which is anything but a win. And then McCain exacerbated the problem by acknowledging him in that op ed piece. It's interesting how no one took Romney seriously when he said Russia was a serious threat. Too bad the clown that theoretically has all the information wasn't that savvy.

I... this post makes me sad.

We didn't go to war in Syria. That is far an away the most important outcome of that scenario. Even if Putin gets 5 move pounds of caviar for it, I don't care.

Edit: This thread moves fast, and perhaps not doing anything was the best thing for us to do in this situation?

[Diff-chan]

Dude put down the Fox News, it's addling your brain. The right often complains about Obama administration is circumventing Congress, now it's complaining that it is engaging Congress, what a joke.

Congress being engaged was clearly the right thing to do, even if it slowed down the process. The whole process from late August to mid September (before the deal was set up regarding the chemical weapons) is called a political debate and it's a good thing to have before a military strike.

[Doc Holliday]

We didn't do anything. That's the problem. Obama and Kerry's lack of decisiveness led to Putin gaining global clout, which is anything but a win. And then McCain exacerbated the problem by acknowledging him in that op ed piece. It's interesting how no one took Romney seriously when he said Russia was a serious threat.

LAWL!

[Yoshi]

Dude put down the Fox News, it's addling your brain. The right often complains about Obama administration is circumventing Congress, now it's complaining that it is engaging Congress, what a joke.

Congress being engaged was clearly the right thing to do, even if it slowed down the process. The whole process from late August to mid September (before the deal was set up regarding the chemical weapons) is called a political debate and it's a good thing to have before a military strike.

It wasn't involving Congress. It was waiting until September 11 because of some symbolic bullshit that I am questioning.

[Doc Holliday]

Yeah, because the previous administration never milked 9/11 for personal gain.

[Yoshi]

You'd make a good cabinet member. They'd rather talk about five years ago than take ownership of their mountain of mistakes as well.