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Thread: The Obama Presidency

  1. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    government was never intended to be a mechanism to redistribute wealth
    Ummmm.....

    "History". Show me one besides 'supposedly' this one that was wasn't.
    Last edited by YellerDog; 28 Oct 2013 at 02:34 PM.
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    I don't even the rage I mean )#@($@IU_+FJ$(U#()IRFK)_#
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    I'm sure whatever Yeller wrote is fascinating!

  2. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    It's been a long time since we've had a Constitutional amendment. As far as I'm concerned, it's strict construction until you get the necessary 2/3 for that. There's a world of difference between malleability and bastardization.
    Is it because no changes are necessary or because we are caught in a two party system that favors their own political needs over those of the people to such a disgusting degree that damn near everything is split directly down party lines?

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    It's been a long time since we've had a Constitutional amendment. As far as I'm concerned, it's strict construction until you get the necessary 2/3 for that. There's a world of difference between malleability and bastardization.
    "strict construction" is, of course, open to interpretation.

  4. I'd prefer it if we could throw the constitution out and start over, but then again I don't think the original was handed down by God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Ramon View Post
    I don't even the rage I mean )#@($@IU_+FJ$(U#()IRFK)_#
    Quote Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name View Post
    I'm sure whatever Yeller wrote is fascinating!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by YellerDog View Post
    I'd prefer it if we could throw the constitution out and start over, but then again I don't think the original was handed down by God.
    After WWII we should have asked ourselves why we are setting up all these parliamentary governments without having one ourselves.

  6. I don't believe we have EVER set up a government identical to our own, come to think of it. Wonder why that is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Ramon View Post
    I don't even the rage I mean )#@($@IU_+FJ$(U#()IRFK)_#
    Quote Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name View Post
    I'm sure whatever Yeller wrote is fascinating!

  7. No, we never have.

    If you want to know why, it's because our system is worse than other ones. Presidential systems are notoriously unstable. Ours has not been, of course - we have the most stable government in the world by a long shot. But that's because we had parties with diffuse positions and broad bases of support - in effect both Republicans and Democrats were "big tent parties."

    Not so much the case anymore, and we are starting to see what happens.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name View Post
    That's dumber than just about anything Yoshi has said in this thread.
    No one is going to go through the hassle involved in health care out of the kindness of their hearts.
    It should be for profit, but, like everything that has grown out of control, it obviously needs to be regulated.
    You are aware that there are plenty of companies not for profit that still pay employees right?

    Bbobb probably meant something along the lines of "the bottom line should not be the primary goal when it comes to the health of the people", which would put it in the realm of the government. (Where I believe it should be)

    (And government has taken on the role of redistribution of wealth long ago.)
    Last edited by Anthony; 28 Oct 2013 at 03:15 PM.
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    He bought some wild, wild life
    On the way to the stock exchange
    He got some wild, wild life

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    Then donate to charities.
    I have the frame of mind to be able to say I do, in a sense - food banks, homeless shelters, cancer research, and I recently added elderly care: some of it is monetary, some of it is volunteer work. But I suspect you're also probably right that most people talk the game but don't play it. It's a terrible feeling, thinking that the majority of people with the means to help the hungry, the sick, the poor, or anyone else in need don't do so. I hope that's not true.

    Also - and I don't know if you were present in the last thread I brought this up in - there's a staggering number of corrupt charities and it's very difficult to make sure you're giving to a place that is going to make a difference. (CNN did the research with a supposed bipartisan group so I guess belief of that depends on whether you think the series about it was biased or not.)

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    You are aware that there are plenty of companies not for profit that still pay employees right?
    Yes, but how many individuals do you know who want to start a business with the sole goal of paying the bills? Like money, there is nothing inherently evil with making a profit. It is just the lengths one goes towards the accumulation of either that has a morality attached to it.

    You are aware that there are plenty of not for profit companies that are full of grift right?

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