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Originally Posted by Joust Williams
no, I want to like, just not ring up fatties at the register, and point to the door.
Those are called protein bars, the ones with a lot of sugar and fat with the protein
Like Snickers Marathon bars
no, I want to like, just not ring up fatties at the register, and point to the door.
Look what I found. this was recorded at the studio I used to own. That's my microphone in the video.
Nordic Warrior
I like how the people that benefited from this decision championed it as a great victory for liberty loving people everywhere. There is a certain extent in which I could agree with such a ruling applied at a particular level but certainly not like this and at a corporate level. You could make the argument that the company should have these kind of rights because people aren't forced to work their I suppose but we don't exactly live in such an environment where people can afford to be picky about their employment.
This is another example of how religion is a detriment to modern society. I don't think that the government should do anything about it as religious freedom should be a right of all peoples in this country but it's time for society itself to really start dropping the hammer. Everyone needs to stop pointing out that not all Muslims are terrorists every time there's an incident involving Islam (I singled this particular example out because defense of Islam seems to be the trendy hipster thing these days among "enlightened" Americans who are normally opposed to all of the bigotry, segregation, sexism, and general lack of tolerance for others that this religion supports) and be more concerned about the global effects of religion and how it is used to make people's lives all around the world dramatically worse. We've mostly stamped out Christian fundamentalism at a cultural level throughout most of the world because society stopped accepting it and now it mostly remains as a pest (like in this ruling). It's time that we start doing the same for all other religions and world views that support hatred, violence, and oppression. If people can practice them in peace and in private, then it's no big deal to wait until science and culture invalidate them to the point of non-existence but that's far from the case in the world today. The only role that organized religion plays in modern society is to impede it's progress and to strip people of their rights.
Edit: To elaborate a little more before this becomes a huge shit storm; I'm not trying to give credence to any acts of intolerance against individuals. I don't think any particular person should be discriminated against for their choice of faith (unless they clearly show themselves to be enemies of humanity itself) nor do I think that individual followers of religion are bad people. The religions themselves at a macro-level are negative things though. For whatever good they promote in the world, they are responsible for far more negative acts and devout adherence to them generally breeds rationale that goes against the concepts of liberty, fairness, and progress. I'm simply trying to say that as a culture we need to start pointing out and getting behind the idea that religion is holding us back and is a relic from a time that no longer applies to the modern world.
Last edited by Gohron; 01 Jul 2014 at 03:25 AM.
Sausage King
I think a big reason for things like this Hobby Lobby shit or the other disingenuous workaround crap like banning gay marriage are because they realize their time is fading. They don't like or want change, and don't know how to deal with it.
This decision will likely face a challenge by a Christian employee of a Muslim business owner denying something and then they'll change their tune. Trying to warn them about it now is futile because FUCK THAT BLACK PRESIDENT and all that whinging.
This Mishima kills fascists
It does need to be pointed out as long as "terrorist" is a word we reserve for Muslims. Why didn't anyone call Elliot Rodger a terrorist? Do you have any doubt that would've been different if, all other conditions unchanged, he were a Muslim?
Why don't we ever hear about sectarian violence among Buddhists all over the Pacific? Or about the mass killings and displacement of Muslims by the 969 conservative Buddhist group in Myanmar? Because those killings aren't as loud and sensational and click-baity as beheadings? Because they're in countries we don't care about? Because Buddhists didn't 9/11? Yes to all three. As long as the media insists the only religion with violent extremism is Islam and the only terrorists are Muslims, yes, we do have to remind ourselves that there are 1.8 billion Muslims out there who aren't putting bombs in their underwear.
I don't think this is fair. Ask the beneficiaries of Christian missionary work how much they hate religion. And if more of us adopted a tiny piece of Buddhist or Quaker austerity, the environment would be a hell of a lot better. There's plenty of good work still being done in the name of all religions. Plenty of bad work too, but plenty of good.and be more concerned about the global effects of religion and how it is used to make people's lives all around the world dramatically worse.
Last edited by A Robot Bit Me; 01 Jul 2014 at 12:12 PM.
The problems of modern American religion has more to do with cultural artifacts handed down from crazy people than the actual religions.
Hobby lobby could just as well gave on to Caesar what was Caesar and followed the laws and and not tried to change them.
Or dusted the sand off their feet and took their religion and beliefs to another land.
Or just loved their neighbor and left judgment to God.
But that wasn't their culture so funk all those other nicer ways to read the bible.
Sausage King
Why can't people do these good things without the religion, though? That's the frustrating part. It's so hard to follow John Locke… must remain within Empiricism and stay away from the "dark side" of Hobbes…
Also, what is the tipping point where "not all members" is a good or bad defense?
Like, we don't want to hear it in defense of men, but it is OK in defense of religions and minorities?
Just curious.
Like, it's not OK to tell a woman scared of rape that not all men rape. But it is OK to tell an old white person that not all non whites are evil or not all non Muslims are terrorists?
can't wake up
If religion didn't exist then something exactly like it would. It's hard-wired into the human mind.
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