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  1. #3851
    Quote Originally Posted by Thief Silver View Post
    Hah 3000 is lowballing it greatly depending on what the machine is.
    yeah, I would assume so. Depending on what the machine is >_>

    funny that

  2. Quote Originally Posted by Diff-chan View Post
    Who needs college when you're looking at a sweet $8 an hour salary in 2015?
    State min wage is already past that in CA.

    And the argument ignores some important factors. Like what I'm making right now is grossly under what I "should" be getting paid because, quite frankly, it was that or watch my unemployment dry up. Not to mention in my particular instance, I went to school and owe a good sum of money on loans, meaning I take home even less. So when you factor those things in, even still, I'm making over min wage, but not by some giant leap that would justify being in school for those years, paying and owing all that money when, if we're just looking at making money solely, spending that much time in the workforce would've at least given me a shot at management positions somewhere, if I was working hard and applying myself.

    For the other aspect, when I haven't had a raise in over 5 years (freelancing, companies who are too strapped for cash [cheap] to pay me more), and sometimes taking LESS just to make sure I don't go broke, then yes, a 50 cent bump every 5 years is comparatively better. Especially considering that 'raise' applies to everyone on that pay scale, regarless of performance, compared to working my ass off and no guarantee of a raise in 1, 2, or 5 years.

    (Granted, mine is a more unique situation - freelance, design, illustration aren't as vital/stable forms of work as other disciplines. I went to school to learn more about it because of a love for it first and foremost and at the time, it looked like a healthy market. Nowadays it's about being an employee and a boss most days of the week with no promises of a stable, high income.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Diff-chan View Post
    Careful. We're talking about games here. Fun isn't part of it.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Fe 26 View Post
    user fewer people to make more to sell to more
    They've been laying off more and more people, shifting the workload to the remaining people to increase quarterly profits for decades.

  4. #3854
    production will erode from the inside if you do a whole lot of that.

    Lay offs can decrease the number of quality workers you have and normally lowers esprit de corps. It can also increase apathy and poor workmanship. In general, firing the shit out of people to save money, is a bad idea.
    Last edited by Fe 26; 19 Apr 2010 at 02:57 PM.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Hero View Post
    Like what I'm making right now is grossly under what I "should" be getting paid because, quite frankly, it was that or watch my unemployment dry up.
    I'm sorry you have a bad job, but if being a minimum wage drone with the potential for an increase in 5 years is so much better, why aren't you doing it?

  6. #3856
    I'm guessing his parents beat him enough that it is ingrained him not to do it.

    He'd "just" feel bad if he did.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Diff-chan View Post
    I'm sorry you have a bad job, but if being a minimum wage drone with the potential for an increase in 5 years is so much better, why aren't you doing it?
    He should PULL HIMSELF UP BY HIS BOOTSTRAPS and quit being such a BIG FAT WHINY CRYING BABY, in my humble opinion.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by dave is ok View Post
    He should PULL HIMSELF UP BY HIS BOOTSTRAPS and quit being such a BIG FAT WHINY CRYING BABY, in my humble opinion.
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