The Obama Presidency

[nocturne]

Would you also tell Einstein that E=MCsquared isn't the root equation for splitting an atom, too?

Worker classes being at odds with one another is Marxism 101.


What you're advocating is a tilted playing field. The idiocy of it is you think it actually benefits you. It doesn't. Businesses must compete against one another to attract consumer dollars, but they must also compete against one another to attract workers. This is beneficial to you because in a positive marketplace it gives you options and leverage to negotiate. I'm arguing for the middle class. As ever shrinking and as fucked as it is.

Look at what you JUST WROTE. You're saying I'm wrong about issues being between political classes yet you'll name drop Donald Rumsfield and Dick Cheney. Do you think either of those two are not in a political class that creates policy? (Read: Awarding Haliburton and Rand closed-bid contracts for Iraq & Afghanistan) War is not a unique business - it operates largely the same way other businesses do. If Haliburton are the only ones providing a service for the war, or one of two companies ONLY in a closed market the worker in those fields will NOT be able to negotiate terms (better wages, health coverage upon return, better equipment, more leave time etc). They have no leverage because they are indentured to those two companies. If you don't like it where are you going to go? This is not open market economics. Dick Cheney used his political class above you to shut down the market and own it. That is worst of Marxism employing crony capitalism.

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth and you don't even realize it. Using war to illustrate your point only illustrated mine. Nobody is saying things are great with the people we have. We're saying the opposite.

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Although I think you went a little "All over the place" with your response, and read a little too deep into mine, you do make some good points.
I am curious to know what you meant by me thinking it is beneficial to think a certain way?

Marxism 101 is not worker classes being at odds, its the working class being at odds with those that exploit the labor of that class in order to make a profit. And no, to the E=mc2 argument, the consequence of an action is not equivalent to the action itself. But these are all semantic arguments, as you can tell I have very little real arguments to make.

Please enlighten me further.

[Yoshi]

You're making posts from Candy Land, so there is nothing of any depth to critique. You have not made one post on this page of 40 posts that displayed any real understanding of anything. You went for an IGN-style Top X list and then parroted something a professor of yours who couldn't get a job in the private sector taught you.

[nocturne]

You're making posts from Candy Land, so there is nothing of any depth to critique. You have not made one post on this page of 40 posts that displayed any real understanding of anything. You went for an IGN-style Top X list and then parroted something a professor of yours who couldn't get a job in the private sector taught you.

I didn't know that getting a job in the private sector was their ultimate goal? Teaching at a public university usually pays adequately enough to warrant that as the goal.
Btw, I'm not parroting a professor's opinion ( I have only taken 1 class on political theory where we didn't study marx but mainly the guys before him, we did study Rosseau, and I'm in a comparative government class right now) anymore than you parrot fox news talking points, or Michael Savage.


You act like I'm posting in favor of communism or something LOL, read what I typed before, aside from the little gripes of Drewbacca, what I said about Rumsfeld and Cheney and Bush were true. They sucked and allowed special interests to take a large precedent, and not just any special interest but the military industrial complex. Is that from CandyLand or would you rather talk about Obama not being a citizen and being a socialist(even though the guys runnin his economics, sorry it isn't him lol, are free market gurus).

And LOL at the IGN comparison, that was a times poll of various eminent Historians. This isn't videogames buddy!

[Yoshi]

I don't watch Fox News (or any other TV news) often at all (usually only in short bursts while surfing) and have never listened to Michael Savage. And I don't believe I have ever questioned Obama's citizenship. There's no need to get that far off in the weeds when his credentials are a target the size of an aircraft carrier. I continue to be fascinated why liberals assume that everyone else needs to be told what to think, despite the fact that common sense will lead you down the fiscally conservative path (I make this distinction to make it clear that I am equating religion and common sense).

[StriderKyo]

You're making posts from Candy Land, so there is nothing of any depth to critique. You have not made one post on this page of 40 posts that displayed any real understanding of anything. You went for an IGN-style Top X list and then parroted something a professor of yours who couldn't get a job in the private sector taught you.

LOL, fuck the private sector. It's run by stupid shallow jackasses. Ivory tower 4lyfe!

[dave is ok]

Common sense will also lead you to the conclusion that Sarah Palin is a fucking retard. Must have missed that one Yoshi

[Anal Kaboom]

You're making posts from Candy Land, so there is nothing of any depth to critique. You have not made one post on this page of 40 posts that displayed any real understanding of anything. You went for an IGN-style Top X list and then parroted something a professor of yours who couldn't get a job in the private sector taught you.

I don't watch Fox News (or any other TV news) often at all (usually only in short bursts while surfing) and have never listened to Michael Savage. And I don't believe I have ever questioned Obama's citizenship. There's no need to get that far off in the weeds when his credentials are a target the size of an aircraft carrier. I continue to be fascinated why liberals assume that everyone else needs to be told what to think, despite the fact that common sense will lead you down the fiscally conservative path (I make this distinction to make it clear that I am equating religion and common sense).

Shut the fuck up you fucking herb. The more you talk the stupider you look. Just back out quietly. Have some tact.

[Yoshi]

The more you talk the stupider you look.

[Razor Ramon]

[Anal Kaboom]

You do realize that the whole "people in glass houses" thing is just another way of saying "Nuh uh you are". Congratulations you're a middle schooler. You fucking herb.