The Obama Presidency

**Razor Ramon** · 04 Nov 2010, 11:33 AM

I want one that shoots dispensable soap up your pooper so you can wipe with ease.

**Doc Holliday** · 04 Nov 2010, 11:39 AM

I want that one with the technician on blumpkin duties!

**Drewbacca** · 04 Nov 2010, 11:40 AM

Golden fleshlight upgrade IMO

**Bojack** · 04 Nov 2010, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Drewbacca

Because only GM is getting it, and not the entire auto-industry? GM can make less money than Ford and still come out ahead. That's COMPLETELY unfair market practice. And you're sitting here acting as if it's a positive tax cut from daddy government? Fuck that. Give it to Toyota, Ford and anyone else creating cars on American soil and it's an amazing idea.

Unfair market practice!!!

Waaaaaaaah. All kinds of auto makers from anywhere get significant tax breaks, subsidized loans etc. in daily operations. You can dispute the amount but for the auto industry this is business as usual. This being said it will help reduce tax burden and hopefully make and/or maintain jobs in America (y'know the kind of shit the Yoshis of America jack off to) as well as ideally helping to pump up GM stock for the IPO that's happening these days to help America re-coup it's initial investment in the bail out as well as taking money from the evil government in Washington. Tomoco and Fomoco get generous shit from any country they set up shop in to begin with, including here.

The laughable part is acting like free and fair market practices happen anywhere.

**Drewbacca** · 04 Nov 2010, 05:26 PM

The difference is the auto maker tax breaks you're speaking of are spread out relatively evenly amongst all American automakers (because of the unions, even Toyota which doesn't unionize gets them for their plants in the American south). I'm sure other American manned Japanese automakers get them, too. Giving GM a completely exclusive 45 BILLION DOLLAR tax break is overkill. And that's the issue. And the key difference between the tax breaks. You can't call Yoshi out on not supporting this tax break because there is a very real undercurrent of market fixation and the amount is so lofty.

**Bojack** · 05 Nov 2010, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Drewbacca

The difference is the auto maker tax breaks you're speaking of are spread out relatively evenly amongst all American automakers (because of the unions, even Toyota which doesn't unionize gets them for their plants in the American south). I'm sure other American manned Japanese automakers get them, too. Giving GM a completely exclusive 45 BILLION DOLLAR tax break is overkill. And that's the issue. And the key difference between the tax breaks. You can't call Yoshi out on not supporting this tax break because there is a very real undercurrent of market fixation and the amount is so lofty.

But they are not always spread evenly. Want to put a new Bimmer factory in the south? The southern states will cum state/local tax breaks all over your face to get you to set up shop. This helps create the same market fixation and favortism you're criticising. At least they have in the past, perhaps new and overwhelming tea party rhetoric in the south would make that unpopular despite the job gains in current times. So essentially you can argue that the amount is a little leery and perhaps you could debate the morality of it coming from the feds rather than the states or some bullshit but the GM tax cut is just business as usual. It's absolutely pointless for any one to give this more than a passing thought because this shit ain't gonna stop.

**Fe 26** · 05 Nov 2010, 02:58 AM

Is it going to do any good? Does GM have anything worth buying?

**Doc Holliday** · 05 Nov 2010, 10:20 AM

151,000 Job Gains in October

Employment rose more than forecast in October, a sign businesses may be starting to look past what the Federal Reserve calls the “disappointingly slow” U.S. recovery toward a faster pace of growth.

Payrolls climbed 151,000, exceeding all estimates in a Bloomberg News survey of economists and following a revised 41,000 drop the prior month that was smaller than initially estimated, Labor Department figures showed today in Washington. Private payrolls that exclude government agencies also gained more than forecast, while the jobless rate held at 9.6 percent.

prego

**dave is ok** · 05 Nov 2010, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Bojack

At least they have in the past, perhaps new and overwhelming tea party rhetoric in the south would make that unpopular despite the job gains in current times.

I can 100% assure you that not only does the tea party not give a shit, they probably would support anti-market tactics like these