The Obama Presidency

[Andrew]

Assuming you were talking about The Obama Presidency, of course.

[Drewbacca]

I love how in arguments rich people are always honorable knights that save damsels, create jobs, spend lots of money, donate to charity yet still are in danger of not having enough money to take care of their family - in spite of the fact that they could take care of 100 families.

The argument here is pro freedom. The government shouldn't sponsor charity anymore than it should sponsor healthy living (smoking tax, etc.)

Someone making two million dollars a year? That's 167k per month or roughly 42k per week. How much money does one 'family' require?

That person has no financial worries whatsoever.

I agree with this. I used this same argument he is for people making 250k per year - which is not rich. If you're pulling in millions of dollars a year you're fine. Those are the people who shouldn't be lumped in with people making 250k a year and running a company off of their backs.

[Drewbacca]

The Zadroga Bill should have been passed, end of story. The fact that the GOP stonewalled it is a travesty.

The GOP isn't stonewalling everything (yet). The Dumb Dumb Democrats still have control for a little while longer and can't even pass their own bills. It's idiotic how many democrats will place the entire blame on the GOP for turning the 9/11 responders away and screwing up these bills. The Dems are full of people who don't know how to play team sports very well.

[Andrew]

Fair enough, but there should be zero point fucking zero "nay" votes on something like this.

[Cheebs]

Math is a liberal art, you retard. So is Science. Shut your flappy fucking bitch hole.

When I graduated college my diploma said "Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering".

When my sister graduated college with a biology degree her diploma said "Bachelor of the arts". She was pissed.

[Anal Kaboom]

lol just 1 week in power and Republicans are scheduling a vote to repeal healthcare reform. Wattup death panels?

[Yoshi]

I hate wasting time on symbolic bullshit. The existing law is going to be found unconstitutional anyway.

[dave is ok]

It's really not

[Gooch]

the top priority for House Republicans is going to be to cut spending and grow the economy and jobs

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[Bojack]

Maybe I'm just too big a dummy but maybe some turbo genius with Yoshi caliber intellect can explain to me why the provisions in Obamacare will be horrific for any one but the insurance industry profit recipients? How exactly will it raise costs at a faster rate than the insurance naturally inflates already? How will the government lacking a public or single payer option in said legislation stand between me and my doctor anymore than insurance companies already do? The government is claiming it will save the budget money. How are they lying since the government can't be correct at the same time as the Obamacare opponents. So how will Obamacare cost the country extra cash? The 1099 is a non issue since even Obama has amitted that it can be amended if needed but the right seems hell bent on complete and utter repeal.

Seems to me the only contention for the regular joe would be the willful non-insurance tax (and given the externalities of the uninsured fuck 'em if they don't like the tax) and a bunch of Fox news boogeymen. I'm honestly stunned that people would oppose this bill in such numbers and emotion. I'm also honestly puzzled as to where the anger is coming from. I could understand the anger if the Feds repealed the 2nd Amendment or some similar shit but a large scale attempt to improve our health care industry is met with insane resistance so if some one could clue me in to how this bill is supposed to be super shitty (using facts and figures and not (R) rhetoric I would be much appreciative.