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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    At least Sony had a somewhat legitimate security approach/reason.

    Anyone who ever pirated a PSP game should really STFU about the Vita cards, since they helped push Sony to them as well.
    No they didn't. First off, they used their own proprietary overpriced media for the PSP before (obviously) piracy ever occurred on the system, a media format that was specific to a tiny collection of Sony products. Secondly, pirating on the PSP was done through the system's USB port and battery, so the type of memory card has fuck all to do with anything.

    And even if the memory card itself somehow was the culprit, the DS utilizing a micro SD card put into an adapter demonstrated that such a thing stops all of nothing. The design of the system and the OS is what enables piracy, not the media format it stores games on.

  2. Quote Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv View Post
    Maybe you do, maybe some others do, but none of the games I own have I needed to spend 20 bucks on a CPP. I have to have a memory card to be able to play any game on my Vita. This makes them not the same. X does not equal Y here.
    I agree with this.

    99.9% of the 3DS library does not require a CPP. The only game I can think of that requires it is MonHun, and even that game is technically playable without it. And the fact that MonHun requires it for a halfway decent play experience is Capcom's fault, not Nintendo's.
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  3. #2373
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv View Post
    The PSP was pirated to hell and back because of issues in their OS security not because they used a standard memory format. The 3DS uses a standard memory format and you don't see it being pirated to hell and back.
    Hold that thought.

    Plus stop changing the subject, you want to deflect to other things and not answer the point at hand. The point is that one accessory is used by 1/10th of the library and the other is needed by pretty much every game you buy.

    Maybe you do, maybe some others do, but none of the games I own have I needed to spend 20 bucks on a CPP. I have to have a memory card to be able to play any game on my Vita. This makes them not the same. X does not equal Y here.
    Nintendo limited the viable genres on the 3DS to racers, rail shooters, RPGs, and side scrollers by completely dropping the ball on the second analog. The fact that developers won't support the CPP just shows how crippled the system's variety will always be because of that asinine decision.

    Actually I did bitch about the use of memory cards on the N64. Specially since it wasn't consistent and not every game saved to it. I was pissed as hell when I got Turok and couldn't save my game cause I had to buy a fucking memory card.
    But not the GameCube, which was exactly like the Vita in terms of this requirement?

    Does every single game on the 3ds need a second analog stick? Nope they don't, does every game on the Vita need a memory card?
    Nope. Your "facts" are dropping like flies.

    Except not, Sony is doing the exact same thing MS is doing with the HDD. They're taking an industry standard and wrapping it in a different case.
    Please show me an aftermarket case that acts as an adapter, because if this is true, and the desire for cheaper cards is as great as you claim, someone would have made one.

    LOL what Piracy is a special feature now? So by your logic there should be piracy like crazy on the 3DS and yet there isn't. It's a standard flash memory chip in a sony shell nothing more, nothing less. Next you'll tell me that it performing slower than Class 10 SD cards is a feature too.
    See above.

    Maybe it's bullshit to you, but obviously the general public doesn't think so. Sales have been abysmal for the system and when you ask people what's keeping them from picking one up, the cost of memory cards ALWAYS comes up. You can say it's bullshit all you want but until the general public starts buying the thing it seems like a statement a lot of people are making and is a valid complaint.
    Diff already handled this nonsense.

  4. #2374
    Quote Originally Posted by sleeve View Post
    99.9% of the 3DS library does not require a CPP.
    99.9% of the N64 lineup didn't support the Expansion Pack. The second analog should never have been an add-on.

    The only game I can think of that requires it is MonHun, and even that game is technically playable without it.
    So the biggest third party game on the system, that's all.

    And the fact that MonHun requires it for a halfway decent play experience is Capcom's fault, not Nintendo's.
    It's Capcom's fault for supporting a system released in 2011 that doesn't have a complete set of controls for modern games maybe.

  5. #2375
    This nonsense about not wanting to buy memory cards is like someone being pissed that they have to change the oil in their car or to pay property tax on their house. Grow the fuck up and look at total cost of ownership before you make a purchase.

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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    This nonsense about not wanting to buy memory cards is like someone being pissed that they have to change the oil in their car or to pay property tax on their house. Grow the fuck up and look at total cost of ownership before you make a purchase.
    Why are you telling people to grow up? Isn't one of the reasons some people have said they haven't bought a Vita is exactly because they looked at the total cost of ownership?
    Please show me an aftermarket case that acts as an adapter, because if this is true, and the desire for cheaper cards is as great as you claim, someone would have made one.
    As I understand it one of main things stopping this is just physical size, because it would have to stick way outside the Vita like an antenna.

  8. #2378
    Quote Originally Posted by MechDeus View Post
    Why are you telling people to grow up? Isn't one of the reasons some people have said they haven't bought a Vita is exactly because they looked at the total cost of ownership?
    I have not seen anyone say that actually, and my point has been that the hardware is underpriced, and the memory card is overpriced, and it evens out to a good value.

    As I understand it one of main things stopping this is just physical size, because it would have to stick way outside the Vita like an antenna.
    Which makes his point bullshit.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    I have not seen anyone say that actually
    You even responded to exactly that with someone who did.

    But regardless of if you're trying to say everything evens out in end, if people feel that the memory cards are overpriced and aren't really buying the system that's underpriced then it's clearly not a good total value for a lot of people. I'm loving my Vita but I also bought one at a greatly discounted price, and the local used store here gets in Vitas pretty regularly and always has them sold within a day or two at $180. Seems to me like people are more willing to get over other humps if the system isn't as expensive in the first place.

  10. #2380
    Bonuskun's Candy Land post doesn't count.

    Your local anecdote is odd to me. I'd pay $250 new over $180 used nearly every time, especially for a portable, since I don't want to not know how many "miles" my screen has on it and how the unit was treated.

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