Question for you 1080p gamers

[RoleTroll]

I know some people feel that "real movies" should be 24 fps, and anything better looks camcorder "amateurish," but I think that's fetishizing a failure. Like the way people thought "real acting" was stiff and exaggerated, but now realize that good acting is realistic.

I watch TV and play PS2 from about 10-15' away from my 42" 720p plasma. I've tried to see the difference between 720p and 1080p in stores from that distance and can't see it. But I wouldn't mind the removal of jutter.

[EvilMog]

120hz interpolation just sounds... ugly to me. With games and not movies, at least. I think I'd turn it off if I had a 120hz set.



Modern consoles don't output at 120hz, so eh.

Try it before you deny it dude.:bang

[epmode]

120hz interpolation just sounds... ugly to me. With games and not movies, at least. I think I'd turn it off if I had a 120hz set.

Same. I've seen a demo TV in stores. It's kind of irritating.

[RoleTroll]

Can you guys clarify: does 120hz improve video games or not?

My understanding is that the fps and hz are roughly equal. So 60hz refreshes 60 fps, no? If 120hz improves movies that run at 24 fps, it should also improve games running at 30 or 60 fps, no?

[Tain]

I know some people feel that "real movies" should be 24 fps, and anything better looks camcorder "amateurish," but I think that's fetishizing a failure. Like the way people thought "real acting" was stiff and exaggerated, but now realize that good acting is realistic.

Bad assumption. I'd love to see more movies recorded at higher framerates and actually think it's a shame that they aren't.

My problem here is a computer making up frames that aren't there. What you're doing is like comparing a 240p game running in 2xSai to a full hi-def remake of the same game. If the source provided the info, I'm all for it, but I don't need my TV making up the picture on the fly.

[EvilMog]

Nah it doesn't do a whole lot for gaming IMO. I generally turn it off.

[EvilMog]

Bad assumption. I'd love to see more movies recorded at higher framerates and actually think it's a shame that they aren't.

My problem here is a computer making up frames that aren't there. What you're doing is like comparing a 240p game running in 2xSai to a full hi-def remake of the same game. If the source provided the info, I'm all for it, but I don't need my TV making up the picture on the fly.

Oh I don't know. I like it because it clears up blur in fast moving scenes a lot. "Most" of the time it looks amazing. Especially in those outdoor landscape sequences.

[Tain]

My understanding is that the fps and hz are roughly equal. So 60hz refreshes 60 fps, no? If 120hz improves movies that run at 24 fps, it should also improve games running at 30 or 60 fps, no?

60hz does not always show 60 new images per second, but that's the max. Similarly, since modern consoles only output at 60hz, no matter what framerate the game reaches, the system only sends out 60 images max per second. Anything else is just assumed movement by the TV. And yeah, if it does it for movies, no reason it wouldn't for games.

I mean, there's no real reason to avoid a 120hz set, but I don't like the look of interpolation (from what I've seen at stores, similar to epmode), and I'd imagine it would weird me out in the long term, so I'd turn it off.

[George]

120hz can be hit or miss especially with layered effects (best example is reticle movement for FPS's, it creates a bizarre cloning effect) but it's amazing when used correctly. It's jarring at first but after a while you can't imagine watching some movies any differently again.

[EvilMog]

I mean, there's no real reason to avoid a 120hz set, but I don't like the look of interpolation (from what I've seen at stores, similar to epmode), and I'd imagine it would weird me out in the long term, so I'd turn it off.

Actually now that I've had one since last summer I miss it so much when I'm at the girlfriends. Gave her my old Samsung and its only 720p. Looks like fucking ass now. But yeah your a dumbass not to buy a tv without 120hz. It can be turned off if your a nancy man.