Anyone Here Believe in Noah's Ark?

**Aurora** · 29 Aug 2009, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by buttcheeks

If you never feel like you might die for what you believe, then you aren't persecuted. There is a big difference between a gay person going into some areas of the country and fearing for their life and a Christian going into a gay bar and fearing for someone thinking they're cute or buying them a free drink.

That was beautifully worded.

**Frogacuda** · 29 Aug 2009, 07:18 PM

I don't know if persecution has to involve mortal danger, but it certainly involves more that people on the internet calling you stupid.

**Timber** · 29 Aug 2009, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Giga Power

A friend of mine argues with me about my atheism quite often

I'm not saying this about you specifically but some devout Atheists are just as bad as the super religious nuts out there. It's their unwillingness to bend at all in their beliefs that gets to me.

**Frogacuda** · 29 Aug 2009, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Giga Power

A friend of mine argues with me about my atheism quite often and one reply she seems to snap at me every now and then (that drives me insane) is that Christianity is not a religion.

Someone explain THAT to me.

There's a very large number of gods that man has created to explain things he doesn't understand and Christianity is just one of them. Also one of the youngest. How can someone look at the beliefs of someone else and KNOW that they are wrong when those people have books and stories and no evidence that's worth a damn either.

GLASS HOUSES. They all can't be right. But they damn sure can all be wrong.

What drives me nuts (and this is especially true of Jews) is that they believe that their religion is the correct one which BY SHEER LUCK just so happens to be the one they were born into, despite no exposure to anything else.

I can at least say I've studied dozens of religions in varying degrees of depth and learned from the people that believed in them with an open mind. I did ultimately decide that they aren't true but I fucking put the effort into getting to that place, which seems like more than a lot of people are willing to do.

**Giga Power** · 29 Aug 2009, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Timber

I'm not saying this about you specifically but some devout Atheists are just as bad as the super religious nuts out there. It's their unwillingness to bend at all in their beliefs that gets to me.

The funny thing is that I was raised in a religious household and I live in a society where religion is everywhere.

I've already demonstrated my ability to change MY mind.

**Giga Power** · 29 Aug 2009, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I can at least say I've studied dozens of religions in varying degrees of depth and learned from the people that believed in them with an open mind. I did ultimately decide that they aren't true but I fucking put the effort into getting to that place, which seems like more than a lot of people are willing to do.

Yes! That's exactly what I was getting at. No one puts thought or effort into their religion. Not the history behind it...hell lots of people don't even really know their own scripture. But hey, I thought it was like the most important thing ever D00d?

**kedawa** · 29 Aug 2009, 07:36 PM

It makes sense that people don't know squat about their own religion. The whole purpose, after all, is to stick their head in the sand and pretend they're going to live forever. The details are mostly irrelevant.

**Netwurked** · 29 Aug 2009, 07:36 PM

Noah's Farce never happened you dummies.

/thread

**Frogacuda** · 29 Aug 2009, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Timber

I'm not saying this about you specifically but some devout Atheists are just as bad as the super religious nuts out there. It's their unwillingness to bend at all in their beliefs that gets to me.

Athiests that think their belief system automatically makes them intellectually superior drive me nuts, and ultimately some of them really do seem to be following a dogma and regurgitating shit they heard elsewhere. You get that everywhere I suppose.

Ultimately, if it gets you through the day and it makes you a better person, I'm all for whatever you believe. But when they get all "It's stupid to think the universe could just be" like squall, that's when I get annoyed.