The Dead Thread

[Fe 26]

You're a dumbass.

I was talking about the people who kill the ambassador.

Were they terrorist or members of a nation's military?

[Diff-chan]

no. ANY embassies grounds are legally their land.

Not really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission

Contrary to popular belief, diplomatic missions do not enjoy full extraterritorial status and are not sovereign territory of the represented state.[5][6] Rather, the premises of diplomatic missions remain under the jurisdiction of the host state while being afforded special privileges (such as immunity from most local laws) by the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.

I'm a bit rusty on the international law governing this, but I don't think this is an "act of war" nor is it really a violation of the Vienna Convention... because it was a bunch of yahoos as opposed to a government institution.

[Fe 26]

because it was a bunch of yahoos as opposed to a government institution.

WE HAVE A BINGO!

[kedawa]

Is there a difference?

We're talking about Egypt and Libya, afterall.

[Diff-chan]

I mean, Libya might have not fulfilled its duties in that it did not protect the embassy to the degree it should have (that is part of the deal) but in no way is a bunch of losers storming embassy HQ an act of war. Advocate has been poking around a bit too deep in John Bolton's moustache.

[Advocate]

Not really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission I'm a bit rusty on the international law governing this, but I don't think this is an "act of war" nor is it really a violation of the Vienna Convention... because it was a bunch of yahoos as opposed to a government institution.

same link; one paragraph down.

"As the host country may not enter the representing country's embassy without permission, embassies are sometimes used by refugees escaping from either the host country or a third country. For example,North Korean nationals, who would be arrested and deported from China upon discovery, have sought sanctuary at various third-country embassies in China. Once inside the embassy, diplomatic channels can be used to solve the issue and send the refugees to another country. See List of people who took refuge in a diplomatic mission for a list of some notable cases."

which is what I said.

[Diff-chan]

No, it's not. "Host country" doesn't mean a bunch of citizens, it means an agent of the state. What the people did was definitely not okay, but it's also not an act of war or somesuch. If it was the military raiding the embassy, that would be entirely different.

[BerringerX]

Andy Williams.

[Doc Holliday]

Guess he took his final trip down ol' Moon river.

[BerringerX]

1:56

Also, Herbert Lom.