Perfect Dark XBLA

[kingoffighters]

As we all know, Yoshi only play the very best games after the fact.

[NeoZeedeater]

a polished single player, where every mission has new gameplay twists and is focused on using spy gadget stuff.

That describes 2000's No One Lives Forever better than Perfect Dark.

[Destro777]

OR, we were smart enough not to own N64's and were riding the Saturn PSX wave?

Again, so you couldnt enjoy both? N64 shit on eveything else for multiplayer. There was no contest. Mario Tennis 64 is still the party game of choice to this day.

From my recollection Deus Ex didnt even have multiplayer back then. The other dude compared PD to Quake 3 anyway - so thats why I talked about the single player stuff of PD.

Theres just no way back in the late 90s or 2000 that you sat in a room with 4 people playing 007 or PD and said this game sucks. Not buying it. People keep saying its dated on here, but then yall praise and play Duke Nukem and Doom on XBLA. Doesnt make much sense.

[kingoffighters]

I am surprised that so many people enjoy playing 4p death matches on Goldeneye/PD. My buddies and I couldn't get into it, because of the tiny screen, bad framerates (which leads to shitty controls). I mean, if that's all you have and can't afford anything else as a kid, I can understand since kids can tolerate an insurmountable of shit.

We always ended up playing Samurai Shodown or Street Fighters, and Super Bomberman instead. Never got into Mario Kart either.

Of course, once I played Quake 2 (even over 56k modem), it changed my world on MP FPS.

EDIT: Single player PD was okay. I got stuck on a certain level on Secret Agent difficulty and gave up. Same thing on Goldeneye (which I like the single player much better).

[epmode]

That describes 2000's No One Lives Forever better than Perfect Dark.

Man, I miss Monolith. What a tragedy.

I know how fun it is to crap on Rare these days but I still remember Perfect Dark as being pretty rad. It did some stuff that you almost never find in other games, even now. Great weapons, that awesome Counter Op mode, the target range, different objectives based on difficulty level, extensive bot options, etc. In a console game, even!

[Diff-chan]

There was this little single player FPS called Deus Ex the same year. Perhaps you've heard of it?

This argument doesn't really hold. Perfect Dark doesn't really hold up to Deus Ex, that's true, but what game does? DX could come out tomorrow and still be better than everything else.

Like epmode said, PD was absolutely loaded for it's time, even today I can't think of another game with a mode like Counter Op. That has to mean something.

[Thief Silver]

Goldeneye was only fun because of the use of proximity and remote mines. That's all.

[Rumpy]

GoldenEye and PD had multiplayer options that you could find on no other console FPS at the time. You could (and people did) play it weeks at a time and never get bored. All of the unlockables and the brilliant level difficulty design made those 2 games an insane value. Sure they looked like shit and haven't aged well but that goes for just about every game from that generation. This PD upgrade had a lot of love put into it, it's cool to see.

[Yoshi]

As we all know, Yoshi only play the very best games after the fact.

I played Perfect Dark too. I just didn't like it.

[Yoshi]

Again, so you couldnt enjoy both? N64 shit on eveything else for multiplayer. There was no contest. Mario Tennis 64 is still the party game of choice to this day.

Age has to be a factor here. In 2000, I was out of college already, for example.