2011 NCAAFB aka Miami's last year of semi-relevance

[Diff-chan]

It's supposed to take away the incentive for an institution to do it again. I agree that it works badly most of the time and is usually pretty silly.

Really, the whole athletic department in a university is a classic example of regulatory capture. An athletic department is supposed to be subservient to the same people the rest of the university is. In practice, that often does not happen. That buffoon Gordon Gee at Ohio State even said as much before Tressel left. And when the athletic department becomes the boss, stuff happens that goes against the mission of these universities.

As an example - in Penn State's case, in 2004, Spanier (who, remember, knew that Sandusky was a boy raper for at least 6 years), worked to stop a vote by the trustees which would have put more oversight of the athletic department in the hands of university officials. This is the problem - the entire institution failed.

Like I said, the university did what they did because they didn't want to hurt the football team or the football legacy. Now both are screwed. I usually think vacating wins is dumb but I think it sends a very strong message in this specific case.

[Joust Williams]

This was worse than the death penalty.

[The_Meach]

Nope. Funny how the NCAA didn't kill football bc that would've had big consequences for the Big Ten Network. PSU can still have games, sell tix, and keep PSU fb part of B10N (PSU was #2 contributor to it in eyeballs/subscripts/$$$).

Love the $60mil fine and requirement for sex abuse education; hate lack of death penalty.

[Yoshi]

keep PSU fb part of B10N (PSU was #2 contributor to it in eyeballs/subscripts/$$$).

What a ridiculous stat. What school do I represent when I get the sports tier that includes the Big Ten Network from NC? So what you're really saying is that the state of PA is likely the second most populous state in Big Ten territory, probably following Ohio.

You don't understand what the death penalty is if you would prefer it to what they got.

[Diff-chan]

I agree with this: http://www.slate.com/articles/sports...thletics_.html

Our college sports system is complete madness. Penn State should focus on being a university first.

[Yoshi]

So the punishment was a backroom deal. I think it's time to give the NCAA the death penalty.

[The_Meach]

From Yosh's link.
OBrien: "I want to play football and I want to play football on television."

Church of Football always wins.

God save our gracious Sport
Long live our noble Sport
God save the Sport
Send it victorious
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us
God save the Sport

[The_Meach]

PSU lawyer: "The idea you'd be driving by an empty stadium with 108,000 seats every Saturday in the fall for four years and no football team playing there … well, to me it was just unthinkable."

Perfect illustration of the kind of mindset that enables situations where the institution > what's right, why the death penalty was needed, and why it would never happen. Shame on my alma mater's ex-prez, Emmert.

All hail the Church of Football, and it's glorious, never-ending regime!

"On Death's Door"
http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=8228641

[Joust Williams]

I see no real problem with losing an enormous amount of scholarships and paying 60M + all the other things they're going to wind up paying for.

[Yoshi]

So, we'll be getting a playoff, but this is the system that decides who will play in it.