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Thread: Halo 5: Guardians (Xbox One)

  1. Xbox 360 II Halo 5: Guardians (Xbox One)

    Might as well start a thread on this too, here's the original E3 trailer in HD (click on picture):



    And some curious info popped up online in a pastebin document, I added additional formatting to make it a bit easier to read:

    At the moment 343i is in the prototype phase, but i will post the current state of Halo for Xbox One.
    Just a reminder that the game you will see probably wont feature everything you are reading here.

    Tech:

    60 FPS has been confirmed at E3, now the team around Corinne is basically taking the Halo 4 Engine, "dumps" it on Xbox One Devkits and measures the perfomance and goes from there.
    The Xbox One hardware is really powerful, though as many have stated not as powerful as Sony's machine. Nevertheless the team does have the goal to create one of the best looking titles next year. People are seriously overstating the power difference and underestimate the potential of the eSRAM (yes, it was included for bandwidth reasons, but the low latency does increase efficiencs in real world perfomance, if the eSRAM is used in smart way. I basically got the same code, with some optimization with the eSRAM running only 20% worse on Xbox Oen than on a PS4-Devkit from January.
    Now what tech and graphical features will be implemented?
    Deferred Shading will finally be implemented, Halo 4 was really sparse on terms of dynamic lights, a drawback of havin to use a traditional forward renderer. G-Buffer will consist of 4 MRTs. The entire pipeline is HDR and linear space. Those Render Targets will probably be stored in the eSRAM or split between the two pools, depending on perfomance.
    Some form of SSAO will also be implemented, Halo 4 only had static and baked AO which looked great in pictures.
    PRTs will be used, current tests with eSRAM and the results are amazing. Thanks to 5GB of ram (soon 6GB ) the textures will look amazing and the models will have plenty detail.
    There are a few drawbacks with aiming for 60 FPS. First the game will not render in native 1080p. Current resoultion on display plane 2 is 1920x720 (1,3 Megapixel compared to 2 for 1080p), display plane 1 (HUD an weapon) will be native 1080p. You literally cant tell the difference.

    Cloud:

    Dedicated Server.
    First titel to showcase true power of cloud processing. Massive battles with 100s of AI (calculated by the cloud); massive worlds with dynamic weathher and global lighting (all done in cloud).
    And yes, this will need an alway online connection(you dont need a powerful connection, those data pakets are really small)

    Game:

    Campaign is planned to be 3-5 times longer than Halo 4. No more linear , going open world.
    Master Chief has gone rogue, has own ship and can visit different planets (6-8 planned). Each planet has several regions with main objectives and several side missions. ( Think of Wings of Liberty or Dawn of War 2 cmapaign)
    Core gameplay is still Halo (2 weapons, grenades, melee; "30 seconds of fun"; sevaral different enemies) but there are RPG elements added to it: character progression (mostly items like forerunner relicts you will find that make Master Chief stronger or will give him more ablities), not really loot, but you will have to acquire weapons first, before you can use them in more missions. Weapons are stored in the armory on the ship and chief can choose his loadout, which he will use on the mission start. He can still pickup and use the weapons he finds in the different missions.Loadout weapons are basically the same you have in Halo 4 Multiplayer (you cant start with a rocket launcher, but you can call in those "super weapons" on a mission like in Infinity Multiplayer; difference is this is a limited ability, at "low level" you can call one time, this can be upgraded over time)
    There will be more weapons in campaign than in Halo 4(and yes more "alien" weapons; not just human weapons with a different coat)

    Enemies:

    Elites (the same faction you fought in Halo 4), Grunts, Jackals, Hunter, Brutes, Drones
    Promethean (heavily redesigned, more types like Promethean Warlords)
    Humans (yep you will gith humans, but not UNSC, those are Insurrectionists)

    Vehicles:

    Biggest number of vehicles ever.
    Warthog (classic, rocket, gauss), Scorpion and yes the Grizzly will be in, Mammoth, upgraded Mantis, more Halo Wars vehicles like rhino, wolverine, cobra, hornets, falcons, vultures
    Chiefs ship can store a limited amount of vehicles (call in similar to weapons)
    Forerunner War Sphinx are in, very powerful enemy "vehicles" (and yep you will fight them)

    To put the gameplay in campaign into perspective:
    The team was running an encounter test in the Halo 4 engine with prototype models.
    This encounter featured several hundreds of Brutes with 2 Scarabs, 10 wraiths and several ghosts and banshees fightin against one Forerunner War Sphinx and some Prometheans. Now the player could engage in that battle or just simply watch them fight (Power of the Cloud: AI in short distance to chief is process on the box; rest in the cloud) and pick off the remaing forces.

    Well the current player chose to engange, took his Hornet and landed it on one of the Scarabs ( the AI is amazing, the Brutes had now to choose who to fight, most forces fought against the Prometheans, a few took on the fight with chief; it really looks and feels like every single AI makes smart and menaingfull decisions))
    The Player killed of the crew on the Scarab and well, thise time he doenst destroy the Core, he gets behind the wheel of the Scarav All hell breaks loose, brute forces more and more engage the rogue Scarab, while the Prometheans dont really difference their enemies.
    And yep the Scarabs is destroyed withing seconds , thought the Player surived thanks to god-mode.
    Those are the kinds of encounter you will find in the final game.

    Multiplayer:

    Split between two categories.
    Halo Wararena ist basically Halo 2 reloaded. No loadouts, no armor abilites and perks.
    Player Count 8-16, game types are Slayer, CTF(yes classic Halo CTF ), King of the Hill, Assault, Oddball....
    Static weapon spawns, more weapons on map which means more ammo, weapons wont respawn as quick as in Halo 4
    The seconds multiplayer categorie is titles Halo Battlefield (not final name obviously).
    Those are basically really big teams battles like 32-64. Gameplay is more inline with Invasion from Halo Reach.
    Custom Loadouts, "armor abilites" (more like class abilites), Vehicles, Infinity like call ins

    Thats it for the moment. Just a small glimpse into what you will eventually play in November 2014.
    As with anything like this take it all with a huge grain of salt and we'll know whether this was all BS in due time but it's interesting that it mentions the resolution being sacrificed for framerate which is consistent with other reports.
    Last edited by Will; 16 May 2014 at 09:02 AM.

  2. Curious. Halo 4 story game was great. The Protheans got stale in a few levels though. Everything with the Covenant forces was great though. Also, bring back Marty for a few music tracks.
    Xbox Live- SamuraiMoogle

  3. I was really impressed with Halo IVs single player, especially considering the hardware.

    I have some faith in these guys.


  4. Halo 4's campaign was really fun and looked outstanding although I kind of wished it was on Xbox One for the improvements.

    Agreed on the Prometheans becoming repetitive later on, it needed a few more variety types. Neil Davidge had a good score for the game but outside of a few titles it wasn't the most memorable of soundtracks so I wouldn't mind Marty back for some contributions but it's not a deal breaker or anything as I appreciated the different tone of the music.
    Last edited by Will; 02 Feb 2014 at 10:56 AM.

  5. #5
    I don't think I could yawn loud enough so that everyone could fully appreciate my feelings on this series.

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    near the end halo 4 got to be such a slog. i love all interest and sold it before i finished it and didn't miss it at all.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Mzo View Post
    I don't think I could yawn loud enough so that everyone could fully appreciate my feelings on this series.
    You should send it through a .wav file.

    Quote Originally Posted by JBNagis View Post
    near the end halo 4 got to be such a slog. i love all interest and sold it before i finished it and didn't miss it at all.
    Was it during this section?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    You should send it through a .wav file.


    Was it during this section?
    that is exactly where i lost all interest. it just went on and on after all that banshee flying bullshit. the multi was fun. but im not that mch of a online vs player. but yeah, that level was horribad.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by JBNagis View Post
    that is exactly where i lost all interest. it just went on and on after all that banshee flying bullshit. the multi was fun. but im not that mch of a online vs player. but yeah, that level was horribad.
    The on foot portions are a bit of a slog (especially on the higher difficulties) but the Broadsword parts are fun.

  10. I will buy a Xbox One when this comes out.

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