Originally Posted by
Josh
I think Terminator uses the river, but then it changes to the multiverse in t2, (or it might have been 3, I kinda forget)
For John to exist he had to have sent Kyle back to lay pipe, which means there can't a first time. It's always happened, and it always will happen. Sarah killed the Terminator at Cyberdyne, which gave them the technology to create the Terminator that came back in time to die at Cyberdyne. I'm not going to pretend that it's logical, but thems the rules.
I think it is only illogical if time is seen to move forwards to exist, rather than all coming into being simultaneously (in a time beyond time sorta simultaneous). A loop that creates itself is entirely possible if time is viewed like that.
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