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  1. You know Romo must be injured again when Yoshi talks about nothing but Brady. He's in full man crush mode.

  2. #692
    I was trying to talk about Wilson, but it's so hard to discuss overrated QBs without using the poster child as a measuring stick.

  3. Well, when your QB is stuck on the sidelines AGAIN, I guess you have to talk about someone else's.

  4. #694
    Yeah, some QBs have to win games and not throw five yard passes and let their receivers and defense do all the work. Notice how Matt Cassel can't step in for Romo without missing a beat.

    edit: In fact, go back to Diff's earlier post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Diff-chan View Post
    2004 Pats, probably the best early Belichick team, were dominate on defense and offense. They had the 7th best offense and the 9th best defense. Brady threw 28 TDs, 14 INTs, and a 92.6 rating.
    Now compare that to Cassel's 2008 numbers on probably a worse team:

    21 TDs, 11 INTs, and an 89.4 rating
    Last edited by Yoshi; 07 Oct 2015 at 05:57 PM.

  5. Yeah, Cassel has no SB rings. Hey, come to think of it, neither does Romo. But I'm sure that Jones and everyone in Dallas are thankful that they have Weeden and are just concentrating on Romo coming back because they know he can win games. Brady will just have to hope his defense can carry him to a fifth title.

  6. #696
    Quote Originally Posted by Melf View Post
    Yeah, Cassel has no SB rings.
    This is the absolute best litmus test for finding people who don't understand football. Eli Manning is a better QB than Peyton, right? And Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino? Hell, Eli beat Brady head-to-head twice, and since "it's a QB league," that must make him better too, right?

    edit: In fact, the only people you can objectively compare with rings are head coaches with personnel power and/or GMs. If not for his cheating, Bellichick would be arguably the best modern one of the former, giving Brady advantages a guy like Peyton Manning would have turned into a crazy number of rings. Imagine if Brady were actually valued out of college and went #1 to the Jets. How many rings would you say he would have?
    Last edited by Yoshi; 07 Oct 2015 at 06:12 PM.

  7. 2015 NFL Season Thread

    The 2007 Pats were all offense and didn't have much of a running game either.

    Brady threw what, 51 TDs? That was the most incredible offensive display I've ever seen. Cassel compares favorably to the 04 team but the 08 one was built quite differently. Obviously there was a huge drop off between Cassel and Brady.

  8. #698
    They actually had a decent running game. Brady just audibled to a pass at the goal line every time to pad his stats. Hopefully ARBM will go look at that season for the blowout padding too.

    Notice they didn't win shit when they were a offense and specifically pass-first team*, yet the Colts, Saints, and Packers all did. Notably, the Steelers haven't either, not at all surprisingly.

    edit: *And that's despite a fantastic pass blocking line, anchored by soon-to-be Hall of Famer Matt Light.

    edit2: Look at 2009 Brady vs. 2008 Cassel. 28 TDs, 13 INTs, 96.2 rating. It's pretty clear 2007 was the fluke.
    Last edited by Yoshi; 07 Oct 2015 at 06:23 PM.

  9. Well they had one of the best slot receivers of all time in his prime, I would argue that was the point.

    And the same guy was on the team in 08 too. Wes Welker actually had more receptions in 08 than 07, so obviously Brady brought something to that offense.

  10. 2015 NFL Season Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post

    Notice they didn't win shit when they were a offense and specifically pass-first team*, yet the Colts, Saints, and Packers all did. Notably, the Steelers haven't either, not at all surprisingly.
    Shit happens. Is it Rodgers' fault that guy went up to catch the onside kick? Pats lost thanks to the most fluke play of all time. I do agree that they needed to rebuild their defense to push them over the edge.

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