We've comprised society by providing too much. There's a guy whose "only New Years resolution is for someone in Fort Worth to open a place that has (real, not cake) vegan donuts." but he doesn't want to do it himself. That is modern man.
"Question the world man... I know the meaning of everything right now... it's like I can touch god." - bbobb the ggreatt
I don't know if that is caused by providing too much.
Traditionally what you just described is how women behave. Because for a very very long time, they've been powerless. So they try argue and convince others to act on their behalf. Because they were not allowed to act on their behalf.
So you're describing a world where everyone feels powerless.
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Pontius is my Co-Pilate
He could just be lazy.
Boo, Hiss.
i drink it up!
Plus that's not even a resolution—it's a straight up wish.
Originally Posted by rezo
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Nah, it's perfectly relevant. The greater point I was trying to make in pointing out all the stuff that Trump skated through is that Democrats' actions have a cloud of potential scrutiny that I don't think really hangs over Republicans' actions nearly so much in our political environment anymore. Pockets of media and the politicians themselves may try to handwave Democratic allegations away, but conservative news doesn't let issues drop like liberal news does, anything they can sink their teeth into they're going to run ragged, and not just for a couple news cycles, for years. Right-wing media has done a bang-up job in conditioning people to assign a binary choice of "trusted news" or "liberal lies" to the news their audience digests, anything that says a good word about a D or a bad word about an R is dismissed straight away by a distressingly large portion of their base. Left-leaning fake news exists, but its propagators have stated that conservative-leaning fake news is where the action is, the liberal stuff fizzles out as it gets fact-checked whereas the conservative stuff perpetuates wildly without nearly so much pushback. Then you have to factor in that in huge swaths of the red portions of our map, conservative news media is effectively the only news media; Fox News is the only news you'lll find turned on in restaurants, conservative voices are the only voices you'll hear on radio. Dems can't count on their dirty laundry being smoothed over by a liberal media counterpunch in a lot of places.
Even if you believe both parties' candidates are equally as unprincipled at square one, you've got one party that's forced to second-guess their bad behavior due to the opposition's power to shove their nose in it, while the other seems brazenly unconcerned with what the other side thinks and disregards the thought that any misdeeds won't fade away in short order. Which one is generally more likely to try to temper their behavior and not swing for the fences with their corruption?
They wouldn't hand over the presidency, they'd deny the allegations, but they wouldn't get away with saying "not an issue, no investigation needed, shut up." They can't get away with ignoring and antagonizing the court of public opinion like Republicans can, and that's an important dividing line in the parties' dynamics.
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Republicans see politics as a sport. It doesn't matter when their QB gets accused of rape. It doesn't matter when they discover he fights dogs. It only matters when the other team, the "libtards" gets caught doing it.
Republicans are also more authoritarian. After someone gets elected, they pretty much have to get caught being a secret agent for the other side. Otherwise, they're the authority, and they are right until triple and quadruple caught (but it probably still doesn't count because the other side is worse).
This is absolutely hilarious. You can say that Republicans are now, or always were authoritarian, but MORE than Democrats? The same people who want to prevent people will mental illness the ability to purchase a firearm, while asking the CDC to classify the desire to own a firearm as a 'mental illness?' That's the paragon of freedom? Or are you just referring to an attitude of, 'do what we say because we said it?'
Pelosi said, "we can't know what's in the bill until we pass it" referring to ACA.
Gruber said, "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass…" concerning the need to lie and dupe (effectively democrat) voters, because those fucks don't actually know what's best for them...but we do!
Chris Fucking Rock equated the Obamas to 'our parents' who knew what was best for us, so we need to shut up and listen to them.
Or how about those colleges, yeah? Where all you have to do is say something that may be misinterpreted as a veiled attempt at a microagression and bam - you've been ousted from your studies, job, etc. Is that the opposite of authoritarian to you?
I think there is a fine line between being an authoritarian and a statist or fascist or some other word for pro state control.
You can argue who desires state control the most, but republicans are less likely to question their own head's of state. Democrats will argue with each other all the way, up and down, as they do it.
And that isn't some shit I just thought up. The democrats being less unified in message is a common criticism. Republicans are mostly unified in the shit sandwich they want to eat and for everyone else to eat.
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