Because freedom isn't free and that conflicts with my socialistic instincts.Originally Posted by cka
Yes, just like all the celebrities/ athletes/ businesses/ whatever that were run out of town over something dumb or misinterpreted on social media. Freedom of speech from governemental interference is nice but kinda meaningless when your ability to put food on the table is impaired by some people feeling bad because you typed something.
This Mishima kills fascists
Reps also reported getting record phone calls opposing that wildly unpopular measure; there's no evidence Trump's tweet had any pull. Moreover, the tweet didn't oppose the gutting of the OCE. On the contrary, it called the OCE "unfair." He only objected to the timing of the measure, not the measure itself.
So you're taking him at his word? My point is that we can't; he just says whatever he thinks will please the people in the room. He trashed the CIA for weeks and called them Nazis in a tweet. Then, two days ago, when he was finally in the same room as them, he eulogized them and accused the media of fabricating his criticism of them as if we can't go back and read those tweets.He also told the evangelists the gay marriage thing was standing—the Supreme Court ruled. Trump is dangerous for some of the reasons you stated but I don't think it's at all a foregone conclusion he's just a dangerous shill.
Further, policy-based proof: remember all that talk about how he, unlike other Republicans, wanted to leave Medicaid alone? Now Conway is saying Trump's ACA replacement turns Medicaid into a state block grant. This means Medicaid is following the same trajectory as welfare/TANF where we went from federal cash paid to qualifying individuals to block grants paid to states, leaving states to decide what to do with the federal cash. If TANF is the model, this is going to translate to states doing stupid shit with the grants--some of Indiana's federal welfare subsidizes centers posing as abortion clinics who exist solely to discourage abortion, some of NJ's goes to maintaining a teen abstinence hot line for teens to call up and have state employees talk them down from their boners. This is what happens when federal programs are converted to lumps of state cash.
If Medicaid can go to stuff other than individual benefits, individual benefits will necessarily will be cut. It's day 4 and he has already reversed major policy point.
Is he going to lead a campaign against gay marriage? No, but he's certainly going to get out of the way of anyone in his cabinet and party doing so. The removal of all references to LGBTQ rights from the WH website supports this.
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The first response doesn't have to be regulation or banning. We could treat these things like a health issue and provide better rehab like some European countries.
It's the easiest response, which is what we tend to go for. See above.
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I've always been pro-choice, but I've never understood why aborting a rape fetus is more acceptable than aborting a busted condom fetus. In both cases, neither the mother nor the fetus are at fault. Is it okay to euthanize a child if they were conceived by rape? When it comes right down to it, it's statistically inevitable that we all have a rape somewhere in the family tree whether we choose to accept it or not. The notion that the fetus is no longer innocent because rape doesn't really stand up.
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This is the worst idea ever floated by a losing party. It's an irrational and emotional response based on vengeance or outright spite with little regard for the actual useful purpose of the electoral college.
It would irreparably divide your country. You thought the people in the middle were malcontent and disenfranchised before? It's idiotic ideas like this that lead to needless wars. And based on what—that you lost in a system known for its checks and balances? I don't trust anyone who says Pence or Cruz are "better" than Trump simply because they play the game. Trumps dumb like a fox—just like George W. was. As a pretty liberal human being I find it fascinating how a party known for its educated prowess can be so dimwitted at political strategy and tactics.
Even in the country many ridings tend to be pretty split. It's up to the party and person running to understand the base and sway the line to their side. Trump did that—Hillary didn't. It's really that simple. Perhaps Hillary tightening human rights and working conditions/wage in Mexico would have actually been a decent campaign promise to level the playing field while ensuring free trade is preserved? There was nothing. "Open borders!" WTF man.
Of course not—but we shouldn't have taken Obama at his word either. The task of an informed public hasn't changed because the President is a tweet tard. What we're arguing about is IS Trump better or worse than just having Pence by the nature of his blowhardness. I don't believe the world is any different. The failure in my mind is that you're assuming being more mum on the issues is better, or that Pence isn't just a shit spewing liar all the same because we don't hear him as much. I think Trump being transparent is ultimately a good attribute that's often a bitter pill to swallow.
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Were we in person I would grab your wrist and lean in real close to you as I look you in the eye and say, "That doesn't matter, as a fetus cannot have or lack a property of innocence." And you might argue that it's insensitive to consider it as just an object devoid of such properties. (But that's an intimate setting, and then we would make out.)
However, going off the claim - no, but there is nuance, sir.
I'm not female and I've never been raped. But if a woman were to tell me that they were raped, and that being forced to have a child resulting from that rape was going to be an unimaginably traumatizing experience, I would believe her.
Now, it is possible that same woman could have the child and see it's little face and be like, "SO FUCKING GLAD I DID THIS!" It's equally possible that same woman could have the child and see it's little face and see the rapist and take that out on the child.
I'm willing to trust her judgment on this one.
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poor little guy
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Wat?
I think we're in agreement, although you may not realise it.
I'm just illustrating the inconsistency and hypocrisy of those who think abortion is murder, unless it was a rape baby.
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